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Irma Schiffers in conversation with Ronald Bernard
Here is the transcript of the English subtitles.
from April 25, 2017
Courtesy of Dick Eastman
(Excerpts by henrymakow.com)
Bernard: ...One of the things that I found out... is about secret services; you think they are there to serve and protect a people, country, etc. but they actually turn out to be criminal organizations, to be more precise, the system is heavily so. We are talking about financing wars, creating wars, so basically creating a lot of misery in this world. So lots of conflict. And then I think to myself, if only people knew what the world is really like. Secret services will stop at nothing. Nothing. But they also have their flows of money, because they are trading in drugs or weapons or, for that matter, people. All that money has to go somewhere. Everything has to be financed.
Schiffers: You say "if," but you could confirm that they are doing this. All of them?
Bernard: All of them. Yes. So the entire world as we think we know it is just an illusion we believe in. Which is something you find out in this line of work. And where it all went wrong for me, to put it that way,
Schiffers: Yes, I feel the same way. All right. Can you tell me the worst thing that has happened that caused the tipping point in your situation?
Bernard: ...I was training to become a psychopath and I failed. I didn't complete the training and didn't become a psychopath. My conscience came back and the most difficult part for me was because I had such a great status there. I was successful. I was trusted with the people playing at this level. To put it carefully, most of these people followed a not very mainstream religion. So you have Catholics, Protestants, all sort of religions. These people, most of them, were Luciferians. And then you can say, religion is a fairy tale, God doesn't exist, none of that is real. Well, for these people it is truth and reality. And they served something immaterial, that they called Lucifer. And I also was in contact with those circles, only I laughed at it because to me they were just clients. So I went to places called Churches of Satan...
Bernard: Yes, In my opinion the darkness and evil is within the people themselves. I didn't make the connection yet. So I was a guest in those circles and it amused me greatly to see all those naked women and the other things. It was the good life. And then, at some point, I was invited, which is why I am telling you all this, to participate in sacrifices abroad. That was the breaking point. [Murder of] Children...
Bernard: (shakes head ) No. And then I started slowly to break down. I lived through quite a lot as a child myself and the reality touched me deeply. Everything changed. but that is the world I found myself in. And I started to refuse assignments within my job. I could no longer do it. Which made me a threat. For them, of course. I was no longer capable of functioning optimally. My performance stated to shake and I refused tasks. I had not participated. The purpose of the whole thing, eventually, is that world is that they have everybody in their pocket and blackmailing me proved to be very hard if I look back on it. They wanted to do that through those children. And that broke me.
Schiffers: Is that ... you are not telling me something new... what they also do in politics?
Bernard: If you google this you will find enough worldwide accounts to know this isn't a Walt Disney fairy tale. Unfortunately, the truth is, that worldwide, they have been doing this for thousands of years. I once studied theology and even in the Bible you find references to these practices with Israelites. The reason the first 10 tribes were banished was because of these rituals with children, including the sacrifice of children, so this is pertinent, all this made me believe, because I realized there is more to life than meets the eye. There is a whole invisible world. It is real. You really do talk about a dark force and a manifestation of light. So I resorted to studying theology to make sense of it all...
Schiffers: That's scary because if you dig into that you find Tavistock Institute and mind control, MK Ultra/Monarch and the like...
Bernard: In all those studies and discoveries I found a document, that they are claiming is bullshit of course. The Protocols of Zion. And nowadays I recommend everyone to read the whole of that incredibly boring document, just work through it and read it through.
Schiffers: We are talking about Zionism.
Bernard: Yes. Of course. If you read the Protocols of Zion and really study them and understand then it is like reading the newspaper of the daily life. How from their position of ultimate power, and ultimate it has literally become, but that is only because the people do not stand up for themselves. They don't recognize what reality is. And we have all been programmed, if you dare to say you are against Zionism, then you are branded an anti-Semite. Then you are .. they try to .. The negative, you can say evil, the Luciferians, the Satanists, whatever you wish to call it, It is a real entity. I have found that what is written in the Bible and not just the Bible, you can find it in so many books. [30:31}
There really has been a moment of separation from the manifestation of light in which a group went their own way and are carrying an intense hatred, anger, the people who understand the severity of this are but few. Because this is an annihilating force that hates our guts. It hates creation. It hates life. And it will do anything to destroy us completely. And the way to do that is to divide humanity. Divide and conquer is their truth. Humanity is a manifestation of light, that is the true creation. As long as you divide them based on political parties, skin color, you name it, then you, from a Luciferian point of view, use that to suppress the full capacities of your enemy, their full power. They can't stand up for themselves, because if that would happen, the Luciferians would lose. Then this monster, the greedy monster, would disappear.
Unite. Unite. Come together. And the entire shit story ceases to exist. That's how fast it could happen. But that is easy for me to say now, but then I was in a period of my life in which I was crumbling.
Schiffers: Can you tell us something specific about that? How did that happen. Because you were invited
Bernard: I started to refuse assignments. My conscience came back after the request involving children and I started to refuse more and more. I had a conscience and I couldn't function any more... Broken. I couldn't do it anymore. I tried to work through it, keep up appearances. I didn't know how to get out of this. I was trapped as well. Everybody was trapped. This all led me to crash completely eventually. My body just simply stopped. The first thing I saw was my mother crying in Intensive Care...
Bernard: At that time I didn't believe in anything, but I can still recall how I saw, from that corner, I was looking down upon myself.
Schiffers: You had a near death experience....
Bernard: Yes I was a train wreck. Complete wreck. I was completely burned out. I had crashed and the body needed a year to recover. Because I ... I don't really want to get into it right now, but in those circles I got tortured physically during my exit time. This was in order to make sure I would never break the contract of secrecy. So I was taken for a certain amount of time. I was "treated", all those factors together, just increased the stress I was experiencing. literally running full speed towards my own end.
Schiffers: Do you mean abductions, as we call it, or programming?
Bernard: No. They exposed me to certain types of torture that makes sure you will never damage anyone in that world. I didn't realize it back then, so this is all from hindsight. It did all happen that way, so the end of my first life was so extreme that I couldn't handle it anymore. I couldn't handle it any more, in no way. However, my mindpower was so strong, that it only happened with and to my own body. That was .. well I don't know what to do anymore. There were no options left for me. So that is why sometimes I think -- of course that is not true -- but wish I had, like so many of my colleagues, taken the drugs and alcohol route. At least my end would have been more gentle, Because most of them are just dead by now. Even though I know there are more straw-men walking around there are few still alive whom I knew back then. Most of them are already gone. Well, I was dead too, but I am still here.