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I Married a Feminist. Now What?

December 6, 2014

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Women were not the only ones brainwashed by feminism.
Men were actually conditioned to admire and desire these women.


But after 20 years of an "egalitarian" marriage, Kieran Dunn had enough.
His "roommate" relationship saps his masculine pride.


Should Kieran get a divorce or tough it out? We revisit his original post
November 19, 2011, and your comments. Afterward, we learn what he did. 









from November 19, 2011

by Kieran Dunn
(henrymakow.com)


I should have known I was in trouble 20 years ago when we went over the wedding vows and my wife-to-be told me "obey" will not be included.  As a college educated and "enlightened" male, I laughed and replied "I understand."

The title of Jerry Reed's song says it all, "She Got the Goldmine, I Got The Shaft." 

My bride to be and I were college educated; she had a background in linguistics and I in humanities and public school administration. We both had prior marriages. I had baggage and unresolved issues.

I had also been indoctrinated. I believed that males at times have repressed women, and I was out to change the course of male/female relationships, at least between us.

I worked hard to be the enlightened husband and nurtured her in understanding (female) subjective reality and how it colors all relationships. Feelings, whether they are based on reality or fantasy, are real to the individual. So we worked hard at understanding each other.
       

hyphen.jpgBut the relationship was doomed to fail from the start as far as "becoming one." She was a feminist, not the Gloria Steinem, bra-burning type, but a quasi-feminist.

She had caught my attention in a college class when the professor asked her what her feelings were on men. Her reply was they were "bastards."

I had not given her much thought to that point, but she had thrown down the gauntlet. She was attractive, smart, and gave no quarter to the weak. My kind of woman.

How did I know this? I had swallowed the programming by feminists and disingenuous liberals who controlled higher education.
 
Being the malleable student wanting to be fed from the fountain of knowledge, I embraced that we men had been too hard on women, Indians, Coloreds, Martians, and other assorted creators belonging to the animal world.

I was ready to leave the unwashed masses and join the thousand points of light that would change the cultural dynamics of male/female relationships.
 
DOUBTS

The watershed was ten years ago when I should have acted.
 
We always talked about going into a ministry and working together. But when the offer came, they only wanted her. My approval was all they needed from me.

femkick.jpg(left, stepping out)

I could have iced her career and reinforced her assessment of men. She cared little that this move would end our plan to work together. There would be no "oneness" in our marriage  What was I to do?
 
I swallowed and said, "It's OK with me." At the time I felt this was right but ten years later I realize it was not. Her desire to launch out without me was her feminist brainwashing coming through.

Everything she has accomplished has been because of my contacts. I have reminded her of this more than once to illustrate all men aren't bastards (we are just dullards due to conditioning).

She was not mean spirited nor has she ever been. When we have had heated discussions over this, she accuses me of wanting her to be subservient, which is not true.

I counter with "not one time have you ever asked me, can we work together?" You have never asked me, "what would my role be?" Then I just get a blank stare and "Well, you are right." But that is where it ends and has stayed for 10 years.

 
DIVORCE?

I called my brother recently and the conversation got around to how different he has felt since his divorce from a quasi-feminist.

At that precise moment, his ton of bricks fell on me. I had to admit that for the last 10 years, I have endured psychic/emotional grief. But I have just turned 55 and I do not know what to do at my age.
 
My wife is a quasi-feminist and that is who I married. I realize I cannot change her and what she feels is her mission in life. On my side of the coin I cannot envision living into my twilight years feeling like I do. This is beyond a dilemma; it is a Gordian knot.


feministcurlup.jpgThe dilemma is this. She is content and happy with things going the way they are (except she wants more snuggle time in her bed). She knows I am unhappy but not the extent of my frustration.
 
I blame myself. I chose to marry a toned-down feminist believing that through mutual trust, understanding, and commitment we could make a life together.

Her feminism is stealth. If I would say a feminist is a women with an "incipient penis," she would probably reply "that may be true-but I have yours too." 

 
It can't work. I cannot surrender my masculinity. I am supposed to provide and lead my family but am not allowed to. I am not berated in public or at home. We respect each other.

But feminism is the reason for us to live on two different emotional, intellectual planes, and floors of our home-that is contrary to how I believe the Creator meant for us to live. And NO amount of re-education can change this genetic/spiritual predisposition.

--
From Kieran Dunn (Recently) : "I have accepted we are roommates with benefits."
 
The 2011 commenter who remarked "sell all and flee to Singapore" was my favorite. I wish I could have followed his advice.
 
I am on the glide slope to retirement and starting economically over again is not feasible or a rational choice.
 
I will have four revenue streams for retirement which only one is unprotected, and it has the most liquidity. But this is not the reason I am still married to "her."    
 
In many different ways as we age we mature [and usually] realize how complex life and relationships are. That cannot be changed.
 
Trying to abide in Christ as a disciple makes the realization of bad marital choices excruciating.
 
The church has taught over the centuries that marriage is a covenant that with a few exceptions is permanent.
 
No amount of mental gymnastics or word plays can negate scripture.
 
Yes I had ethic classes in ministry preparation and know the concept of "which is the lesser/grater evil."
 
I can only speak for myself but my choices are/were my choices.
 
I am not in an abusive relationship but one of my own choosing.
 
I have thought, prayed, and meditated long over my situation and have accepted it as it is.
 
But the cause and reason for not leaving, though tempting, is because of my calling to minister to others.
 
This is not to mean I am a martyr, far from it. But to walk away and divorce would injure too many people, and far beyond my own family.
 
My wife had a serious health issue and I refused to be a Newt Gingrich! My intention was to get her through the surgery, recovery, then set sail for calmer waters. But events changed swiftly and her surgeon became concerned she was in danger of dying.
 
That changes one's perspective.
 
She brags to others how helpful and knightly I was/am. I tell her gently "no-I did what was expected of me!"      
 
For my part, I have cleared the air with my wife and told her of what my expectations were/are and the many years of frustration I have had.
 
I have accepted we are roommates with benefits.
 
Don't anyone feel sorry for me. Both of us are professionals and have revenue streams (retirement) that are unexposed to the other. As I mentioned, she nor I can clean the other out. We are not spring chickens anymore, but neither of us needs the other for health reasons.   
 
I can hear some responders say "I am foolish, allowed myself to be trapped, living in  a fool's paradise, or some similar opinion that I have sold myself out."
 
I suspect the liberated and cosmopolitan will suggest I am weak, sold out, or unable to break away.     
 
The word "myself" is the operative word here. So why stay? That's the thing to do, for "me!"  I don't feel pressured or guilt ridden to stay. I can only say [again] for me, it's the thing to do.
 
As you write [and are right] the essence of life and God is love. The love of God will break the hold Satanism has upon the mind and heart of men. Sometimes that means to put oneself second and others first. As the scripture reminds the faithful that "God demonstrated his love for us that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for the ungodly."   
 
I close with "and that's the way it is."
 
I pray no one feels I have let the cause down, because I have not.
 






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Comments for "I Married a Feminist. Now What? "

Tim said (December 6, 2014):

Hats off to Kieran for following the New Testament Scriptures! Actions like his put the covenant of marriage where it should be - our most sacred relationship with another human, which should not be taken lightly as it is in today's satanic culture.

His wife, however, as a Christian, is not following the Scriptures, as they teach a woman is to defer to her husband as head of the household. It appears a wife following any feminist doctrine in a marriage is not following Christian teaching.

But she appears to be least following Scripture in continuing to offering each other "benefits" in the marriage.


Greg said (December 6, 2014):

When you live with a woman, draw your lines with her. Acknowledge her as a separate individual with her own life. She makes her own choices and when she fails, she suffers her own consequences, and you show no pity. You might warn her, but women do not listen. If she does not listen, let her stew in the juices of the mess she creates so long as it does not infringe upon your person. If it could affect you personally, say "NO!" 'NO' means 'NO' and you have to be willing to enforce that.

The brother-sister marriage is the new norm. Live with it and protect yourself from it by drawing a line, then sticking to that line. She is she and you are you. Seek your own bliss and quit waiting for her to provide it. She is not your mother and you are not a child. Commit 100% to your own life, not to hers.


Linda said (December 6, 2014):

Kieran, your first love, as a man of Christ, is to love the Lord, your God, with all your heart, mind, will and strength and then to love according to your duty of state as a husband and whatever your family relationships may be - father, son, uncle etc.

All the ideologies are fundamentally hostile to the Christian faith, being contrived as they have been for the destruction of the Christian social order. The issues of life, the verities, the home truths, the Biblical truths, the holy faith itself are at this dark hour desperately important. And these are the truths of virile and untamed hearts.

Get hold of them, speak them and live them - especially toward your Christian congregation which has been subverted by these ideologies [ and not just feminism ] and then retooled for Satanic purposes. If you love your people, however defined, you will not just leave them alone in this state.

Read the prophets. Domestic harmony does not seem to be the happy lot of the prophetic calling.


Naila said (November 23, 2011):

Somehow I don't see anything noble or romantic about sharing a car when it means getting up an hour early to commute or drive someone to work. . . nor about trying to concentrate in a shared office amidst a spouse's phone conversations and possibly jarring music. Even sleeping in separate bedrooms can prevent long hours awake due to one spouse's snoring, getting up during the night, moving around a lot, etc. Health experts often suggest this as a solution to snoring problems when other things fail.

In Muslim countries separate bedrooms are more common, and not at all indicative of a problem in the marriage. Many women who have their own rooms respect and defer to their husbands. Many women who share a bed don't. The happiest couple I know have their own rooms, along with a fairly traditional power balance with him very much the head of the family.

In other words, this is a matter of practicality, of easing the often tricky business of daily living -- and not a feminist issue. The author's wife may or may not have overcome her negative feelings about men, but her wanting her own space is a separate thing entirely. I say he should either get rid of his baggage once and for all, or divorce her so she can find a real man whose masculinity isn't threatened by these very understandable choices of living arrangements.


Jennifer said (November 21, 2011):

Reading between the lines it seems that you are jealous of your wife.

"We always talked about going into a ministry and working together. But when the offer came, they only wanted her. .... She cared little that this move would end our plan to work together. There would be no "oneness" in our marriage What was I to do?"

What if they only wanted you? Then I wonder if you would you have turned them down. Why do you think they did not want you?

The idea that "oneness" comes from working together during the day is short-sighted and limiting. Working together during the day then being together on your time off?--doesn't that seem like a bit much?

You have no children and did not complain about it so I gather that you both did not want them.

Although you said that you went for feminism because of the noble idea of righting the wrong "repressive" men, wasn't the real draw that --You wanted the benefits of a double professional income, that you did not want the responsibilities of supporting your wife-- If you were with some needy subservient feminine Asian woman, I wonder if you would start complaining that you hated shouldering the financial responsibility?

You sound like a lot of divorced feminist men I have met on match.com. They told me they bought the feminist first wife package because they wanted the financial benefits but then once the money was made -- by the wife's joint contribution. She has to think like a man to make money-thereby sidelining her feeling/feminine side. Later the "leg-up man" wants to be "The Man". And they want a more nurturing woman. So they divorce. But once they have an opportunity to be with a non- feminist --truly loving nurturing submitting woman they resent being financially responsible.



adz said (November 21, 2011):

You know why? she sees you as worthless and unimportant, so every time something new happens, your wish is always "re-filed" to the back of the list. That, sir is a subtle way of being mean spirited without being mean spirited.

They say that saplings should be straightened when they are young since they are easier to work with and as the tree grows older, it becomes harder. That may be true, but you know what? nothing can withstand a bit of fire. Even the hardest metal succumbs to it.

What I'm trying to say is that its better to stand your ground rather than back down from an argument. The first thing you have to remember is learn how to say 'NO'. Next, whenever the topic of 'being subservient' comes up, ask her 'why? what is wrong with it?' the world is ran by males, yet, she's not out protesting about it right? so its not about women's right and other feminist BS, its about who she can and cannot control.

But here's the trick, before you ask her what is wrong with being subservient, ask yourself first what is wrong with it. If it comes out you're just being a control freak then you need to adjust yourself as well.

I'm Asian, and my wife is subservient, and we don't live under the mantra "women should stay home and make babies" no! Read the Bible, does it say that? real wives keep the house (kids included) in order, and do business at the same time while men do their work. Subservience means that 'You're my wife and I value your thoughts, and you have the right to input in decision-making, but in the end, I have the last say in any matter'. Of course, this comes with a price, if your decision does turn bad, you should be man enough to pick up the pieces WITH or WITHOUT her help.


Dr JC said (November 21, 2011):

Mike's got it right.

Also, his wife seems to have the traits of narcissism. Tough to "fix" narcissism and Kieran can't fix it.

As far as God and his commandments are concerned, committing adultery is a whole lot more than having sex outside of marriage.

It has to do with preferring anyone or anything other than one's mate. Even yourself. Forget that guilt trip.

There is no marriage with a narcissist.


Kate said (November 20, 2011):

Henry, you said it so well in your introduction to the article - men have been programmed to desire these women. Now Kieran has reached a level of inner maturity, sees his own truth and wants/needs to live in greater integrity beyond the programming - I commend him for this.

Only he can decide when his hope has died, but there is nothing noble about being indecisive. He says that his wife is happy with things as they are, though he is not. My comment, as a woman, is that somewhere deep inside she KNOWS that something is terribly wrong but she may never be able to admit it to herself or to him.

I agree that women do not respect weakness in a man. There is, however, a difference between weakness and kindness. I believe it is possible for a man to be in touch with the value of kindness and still be very strong. I would recommend that Kieran read Aubrey Andelin's book "Man of Steel and Velvet." Used copies can still be found on the internet. Good luck to him.

Judging by the responses to this article, it appears that folks are still blaming each other instead of recognizing the epic onslaught of evil feminist programming we have all endured for decades. Neither women nor men are to blame and we merely perpetuate the agenda if we continue to despise each other for it instead of despising the agenda of the programmers.


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Are Hindu and Christian Meditation Incompatible?

December 5, 2014


meditating2.jpg(Left. Catholic schools teach meditation)

"New Age Mind Games for Ontario Catholic Schools"

London, Ont. father, Thomas Carter thinks
Hindu mediation is a nasty New Age incursion
which opens us to demonic spirits.
What do you think?





Carter: "C
hildren should be learning about God. As they learn about Him their love for Him will grow and they will serve Him. Learning about God takes labour and proper direction. These children are chanting meaningless syllables while they can't answer even the most elementary question about the faith."


by Thomas Carter
(henrymakow.com)



The shock came on Wednesday evening
when my daughter told me at the dinner table, "Oh Dad, today we did Christian meditation."

Up until this point, my kids were coming home with Rosaries and saying them regularly at school.  I was starting to think they might even be raising them to be Catholic.

My hopefulness quickly turned to despair after I asked what they did for meditation. She said, "We sit with our hands out  and say 'Ma-ra-na-tha' again and again, Ma-ra-na-tha means 'come to me, Lord.'"

Having dabbled in various forms of Eastern/New Age meditation in my early twenties, I could see that someone was passing off a Hindu practice as Christian.

After speaking with a school official, I learned the program was already fully implemented in the Diocese of Hamilton and was going through a test run at my children's school. The same official told me that the plan is to make it province wide. What was I to do, knowing the true origins of the program they were implementing?

RESEARCH

More research was needed to prove my case. Luckily, Br. Max Scully had done the groundwork and fully exposed the fraud in his book Yoga Tai Ci and Reiki a guide for Christians.

SCULLY.jpgBrother Sculley informs us that an Irish diplomat named John Main was working in Malaya in 1955 and encountered an Eastern guru named Swami Satyananda. Main, being impressed with the gurus 'peacefulness,' asked him to teach him the yoga way of meditating.

"During the time of your meditation, there must be in your mind no thoughts, no words, no imaginations. The sole sound will be the sound of your mantra, your word. The mantra is like a harmonic. And as we sound this harmonic within ourselves we begin to build up a resonance. That resonance leads us forward to our own wholeness. We begin to experience the deep unity we all possess in our own being. And then the harmonic begins to build up a resonance between you and all creatures and all creation, and a unity between you and your Creator."1

By emptying the mind by repeating this meaningless sound, Main could experience being at one with the cosmos and the Hindu god Brahman.

The fact that 'maranatha' has Christian overtones in no way alters the movement towards an altered state of consciousness simply because we are here dealing with sound and not with meaning. And it would be presumptuous to think that one would be protected from the influence of demonic spirits by the Christian meaning of the mantra when one deliberately enters a state which opens one up to such influence. Indeed, the use of a Christian mantra can lull practitioners of C.M. into belief that they are practicing Christian contemplation"

DANGERS OF "CHRISTIAN MEDITATION"

Eastern gurus will tell us that the main purpose of yoga is the awakening of kundalini. Unleashing this spiritual energy can be dangerous.  Br. Sculley informs that, "There are over 50 New Age Spiritual Emergency Centres established by Stan and Christina Grof. 40% of calls deal with kundalini breakdowns; there are kundalini help-groups in Scandinavia and Denmark."

Brother Sculley sheds a little light on the claim
that meditation has been practiced by Catholics for thousands of years.

[Christian meditation] "was not a mantric form of meditation but a form of Christian aspirational prayer."

This 'discovery' is to be found in the writings of the 4th century desert monk John Cassian who recommended the constant repetition of a single psalm verse, 'O God come to our aid, O Lord make haste to help us.'5

 The continual repetition of this verse throughout the day 'keeps the mind wholly and entirely upon God...[ this verse ] carries within it all the feelings of which human nature is capable'6. [ emphasis added ] Over time this sentence and its meaning become a part of one's personality.

As Cassian states, the repetition of this sentence focuses the mind, it does not empty it. And the focus is on meaning and the affections, not on the sound as in mantra yoga.

The use of a sentence in the vernacular and not in a dead language lends itself to the stimulation of ideas and feelings and possibly images. In contrast, mantra yoga seeks to remove all these from the mind. The idea of focusing on the sounds of all the syllables in this sentence would be ludicrous.

It is obvious, then, that Main's claim to have discovered mantra meditation in Cassian's form of aspirational prayer is quite spurious.

yoga.jpgThe organization behind building the program is the World Community for Christian Meditation .  As you can see from this photo (left) from their website their practice are void of anything typically Catholic.

CONCLUSION


School officials are incapable of seeing what is so obvious to anyone with any sense of what the Catholic faith is about, that is, to know, love and serve God in this world.

It's an ordered process, and the children should be learning about God, and as they learn about Him their love for Him will grow and they will serve Him. Learning about God takes labour and proper direction. These children are chanting meaningless syllables while they can't answer even the most elementary question about the faith.

For instance, what are the two kinds of grace? Answer: sanctifying grace, which cleans the soul and actual grace, which helps us to do good actions. Fifty years ago any six- year old Catholic would have been able to answer this question.


Furthermore, without pressure from parents, schools will continue to implement programs given to them by their dioceses, which are made of bishops and priests who are bent on destroying the faith. I can guarantee that all priests coming through the seminaries today have been carefully screened and are void of either a brain or a backbone. You might find one or the other but never a combination of the two.

Dear Catholic parents, are the souls of your children the least of your concern? Why do you allow the school to experiment with the little ones' minds? Why aren't you concerned that your child doesn't know the first thing about the Catholic faith? I implore you to obtain a traditional catechism, the kind that worked for centuries to convert millions of people, people who kept the faith. Also find a traditional Mass, where the priest has been properly ordained in a traditional seminary and says the old mass, in Latin!

Traditional Latin Mass directory for North America  (see footnotes below)
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(Makow  comment - In my opinion, meditation is the most important thing children can learn in school. We all need to learn to stop identifying with our thoughts. "We" are not our thoughts which can be easily influenced by . We are our souls witnessing thoughts. Our souls are our God-connection and intuitively know Truth and Morality. The soul guides the thoughts like a hand on a sheering wheel. Hindu and Christian meditation are both about concentrating and controlling the mind. Hindu meditation is experiencing the soul while Catholic affirmations are training the mind to obey the soul. Teaching meditation in Catholic schools is fine as long as Catholic teachings are given prominence.)

First Comment from BPC-

Hello Henry - love your site and the great information you regularly post.  However, I think you're dead wrong about Hindu 'meditation'.

Hindi 'deities' are actually demonic idols.  Prior to the subversion of the Roman Catholic Hierarchy with the election of John 23rd and the disastrous consequences of Vatican 2, Catholic teaching was always clear and concise about the dangers of dabbling in eastern mysticism due to the dark forces lurking therein. 

When people practice Hindu 'meditation' by reciting a 'mantra' repeatedly, whether in a classroom or yoga studio, they are unknowingly summoning dangerous, occult forces.  Experienced exorcists can confirm this through the various battles they wage with these same forces.  As recently as the early 1970s, the Church Fathers warned Western Christians and the public at large about messing around with such things. 

Christian mysticism and meditation are entirely different from Hindu 'prayer'.  Holy Prayers such as the Rosary involve the repetition of key Biblical prayers and phrases while meditating on the Divine Mysteries.  These prayers are offered up in petition, thanksgiving, and adoration of the One True God - Jesus Christ, the Father, and the Holy Ghost.

Your writer is sadly correct in his observation that modern priests and bishops seem intent on destroying what's left of the Traditional True Catholic Faith.  Catholics are no longer taught to stand up for the True Faith.  Instead, the vast majority of post-Vatican 2 Catholics are being led by the nose into an entirely different religion that emphasizes a false 'unity' or ecumenism with pagan/demonic belief systems and whose ultimate goals is the destruction of Christianity and the imposition of a 'world' religion.  And we all know what that's about...

Richard writes:

I know the definitive answer to the question.  Any meditation that involves 'making the mind empty' has a different trajectory than Christian contemplation.  Christian meditation is filling the mind, not emptying it. 

There's no need to bash Hindus.  Any Hindu will tell you the same if you tried to teach his children there's no difference. These are different religions, each has a different trajectory.  They're not interchangeable. 

When Jesus spoke of prayer he always referred to the Psalms.  A psalm may give praise to God, or give thanks, or invoke wisdom, or lament.  Jesus combined all of these during his crucifixion plus added a new one -- offering one's own suffering up to God as a sacrifice for everyone (humanity). 

Read St. Teresa of Avilla's 'The Way of Perfection' to your children.  She wrote that to help her novice nuns deepen their prayers.
The writings of the saints hasn't been taught in Catholic schools for a century, really.   Seminarians aren't reading St. John of the Cross or Thomas Aquinas anymore - they're assigned heretics like Thomas Merton - the Trappist monk who hung out with beatniks like Alan Watts and promoted Zen meditation and the Dalai Lama.   He also had a love affair with nurse 1/3rd his age before he died. He should have been excommunicated, not enshrined.

I'm sorry have to say to fellow Catholics that it's time to  "come out of her my people" *   Benedict XVI held back for seven years but with Pope 'Frankenstein' the last pretense is over.   I suggest ... I urge, parents to write the rectors of Eastern Orthodox churches if there are any near you.   Their schools still children an old fashioned Christian formation.

I remain active in volunteer work with the poor through my parish church, but must be realistic that the Catholic Church of our ancestors no longer exists.  As Mr. Carter found out, the injection of New Age ecumenism have been in the queue for sixty years but they've had to bring it out very gradually.   First they dumbed down Catechesis, but didn't dare introduce New Age religion until enough parents lacked sufficient formation to recognize it as such.   What they've done here is substituted the word "Christian" for Krisha Consciousness.

Long gone are the days that parents can trust church schools to provide a solid Christian formation.  Not just faith, but the full understanding of Christians ethics.  That's a lot more that a list of wimpy platitudes.  They don't preach "showing the courage of your convictions" anymore. 

* Revelation 18: (Apocalypse of John of Patmos) "Then I heard another voice from heaven say: "'Come out of her, my people,' so that you will not share in her sins, so that you will not receive any of her plagues."

and Jeremiah 51:45



Footnotes:



1. John Main, The Gethsemani Talks, Medio Media Singapore, 2001, p. 14.

2. 
Brother Max Sculley writes, "The technique which Satyananda gave Main is classic mantra yoga as described by Saraswati: 'Mantra is a combination or assembly of powerful sound waves. As such the intellectual understanding of the mantra is not at all necessary. It is not the meaning - some mantras don't even have a meaning - but the sound waves created by the mantra which influence the cosmos internally and externally'. www.satyananda.net/prospectus , p.1.

3. John Main, The Inner Christ, Darton Longman & Todd, 1987, p. 29.

4. The Gethsemani Talks, op.cit., p.8.

5. Psalm 70:1.

6. John Cassian Conferences, trans. Colin Luibheid, Paulist Press, 1985, pp. 133, 140.

7. 
What Main 'discovered' was not mantra meditation but aspirational prayer in which a meaningful phrase is constantly repeated so that the meaning and affections eventually sink into one's unconscious and one may even repeat it in one's sleep. And aspirational prayer did not begin with the desert fathers. It goes back to the beginnings of Christianity. Jesus in his agony in the Garden of Gethsemane used this form of prayer when he cried out repeatedly to His Father for an hour or so: 'Father, if it be possible let this chalice pass me by, nevertheless not my will but thine be done'.7 Lk 22: 42.

8. 
Likewise the blind man at Jericho kept crying out to Jesus for healing, 'Son of David, have mercy on me'.9 These all differ from a mantra in that the focus is on a limited meaning, not on the sound of syllables.Lk 18: 13.

9. Mk 10: 47






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Comments for "Are Hindu and Christian Meditation Incompatible? "

Andrew said (December 6, 2014):

Father Thomas Cater makes a weak argument when a stronger point would go better.

Hindu schools don’t teach Christian meditation, so why should Catholic schools teach Hindu meditation. This is obviously confusing to kids.

Has anyone heard of Hindu teachers teaching Gregorian chant to Hindu kids? Christian meditation is a form of prayer in which a structured attempt is made to become aware of and reflect upon the revelations of God. The word meditation comes from the Latin word meditārī, which has a range of meanings including to reflect on, to study and to practice. Christian meditation is the process of deliberately focusing on specific thoughts (such as a bible passage) and reflecting on their meaning in the context of the love of God.

Father Carter is correct that Hindu meditation is the opposite, an aimless focus on nothing.

Meditate, "Do not ignore this one fact, beloved, that with the Lord one day is like a thousand years and a thousand years like a day. The Lord does not delay his promise, but he is patient with you, not wishing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance. But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, and then the heavens will pass away with a mighty roar and the elements will be dissolved by fire, and the earth and everything done on it will be found out." 2 Peter 3:8-14

If Christian meditation is a discipline of a Christian thought, Hindu meditation is the discipline of thoughtlessness.


Rich said (December 6, 2014):

Mathew 6:7
But when you pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.

nuff said.


Michael said (December 5, 2014):

Good article, although the author has forgotten that the Catholic Bible also says in 2 Corinthians 10:5 to “bring into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ” and not to leave your brain unattended which seems to be the norm in schools nowadays.


Robert said (December 5, 2014):

Having studied, and meditated on these ‘truther’ topics for a while now, and often being taken to higher levels by what is on Henry’s site, I hold with the model that demons, whatever they are, gain access to us under certain conditions and when we carry out certain practice or rituals, knowingly or not.

Furthermore, I believe that this so-called meditation will eventually lead to ‘Voice to Skull’ type technology being used to program people during sessions on a wider scale, at school or work.


Jorge said (December 5, 2014):

The subject brought about in this posting of yours has been dealt with by Joseph Card. Ratzinger in a book I read some couple of years ago.

In the first place, I think 'meditation' here would be in analogy with 'prayer' (which is more correct in my view). If my memory doesn't betray me, in the book and resuming, Card. Ratzinger concluded that Christian prayer and Oriental meditation are essential different because in the first case 'there is an Interlocutor' and the religious experience is one of 'the Other', whilst in the second it most the 'subjective personal religious experience of the self' that matters.

So, they are incompatible and teaching this in Catholic schools is corrupting the true nature of Prayer. However, sensing one's soul - as you say - is a first step on the stairs of Prayer, and it is more mentioned in spiritual books as 'self-knowledge', which is a 'must' for a life of Christian prayer.


JG said (December 5, 2014):

There is no such thing as "Christian Meditation". What a slick move by the Canadian School Board to attempt to replace prayer with meditation.
What is a Hindu practice should remain a Hindu practice. And, what is a Christian practice should remain a Christian practice.

Prayer never was and is not a form of meditation.
What we are witnessing today is the "watering down" of the Christian Doctrine into a worldly politically correct theology especially with the Catholic Church and this new Pope.

Going back to giving mass in the Latin language won't bring it back or save your soul either unless Latin is the only language you know.
Jesus Christ is the ONLY mediator between God and mankind. God is not a switchboard that we can connect with at our own convenience. We don't make the rules for worship either.

The true Christian Church has no prescribed Holy Days that can be found in the New Testament other than what was written in the Old Testament such as the Passover Feast which Jesus Christ himself observed. The New Testament is not a religion of festivals or golden cathedrals. It is a religion of the love for God to be practiced in ever day life. This means loving your neighbor as yourself and NOT going to war against mankind. You can't love God and hate your neighbor at the same time.
Christianity is the Old Testament defined and fulfilled by the teachings and crucifixion of Jesus Christ.

More and more today it seems that Jesus Christ has been taken out of the religions of faith and spirituality. He has been put out of his own church.


Tony B said (December 5, 2014):

The modern mantra to knowledge is "keeping an open mind" but it is a lie. The whole process of learning is closing the mind to those things discovered to be wrong or improper.

An open mind is a direct invitation for demon possession, whether or not the person believes in them, whereas a mind concentrating on God cannot be possessed as demons will flee from it.

Pretty basic, really.


Steve said (December 5, 2014):

I believe it's about intent, focus, and practice.

"Be still and know that I am God". Focus on God by thanking Him in prayer, by letting a verse of scripture be the focal point of thought and have it soak into our minds and hearts.

It is not emptiness. It is letting negatives fall away while we focus on Him.


Below- Wife's Infidelity is a Blessing in Disguise - (scroll down)

Sex - Out of Sight, Out of Mind?

December 4, 2014


reporter.jpg"How can a man concentrate on the news when his mind
is bedding the beautiful young woman reporting it?"






by Henry Makow Ph.D.


Almost every day I see beautiful young women carrying big signs that say, "LOVE ME."

But below, in smaller print, they say, "No. Not you."

You can see how men in my position, probably 80% of all men, might find this frustrating.

Especially when so many young women and girls today dress like streetwalkers.

Sex is the elixir in our pagan sex cult society.

We are besotted with fertile young women.

They are goddesses. Sex with them is just below money at the pinnacle of value.

I wonder how these young women must feel? To be venerated for sex appeal - something they did nothing to earn?

I used to enjoy "girl watching." I thought it lifted my spirits. 


But now, I wonder if that is true. It just makes me think about sex.  Usually, this happens while watching television...

sportsreporter.jpgTV TITILLATION

Television seems dedicated to sexual titillation. Many shows are quasi pornographic.

Sex appeal is not just a criteria for actresses, but also for reporters and anchors. If she's sexy, it must be true. 

Foreign correspondents are all "hot." So are the women covering business and men's sports.


How can a man concentrate on information when his mind is bedding the woman reporting it? 

THE JAWS OF THE BEAST

At 65, I had hoped my sexual energies would fade. But this hasn't been the case. My body senses its oncoming demise and wants to perpetuate its DNA.

At my age, my wife and I don't want children. Nonetheless, the body has its own ideas.

So I must wrestle with this natural instinct.  I must realize that "eye candy" is bad for the soul. It's just another way of behaving like a beggar.

Out of sight, out of mind is my motto. I avoid attractive young woman.  I avert my gaze or switch the channel. I've noticed (out of the corner  of my eye) that some women do a double-take. They're not used to being ignored. Their vanity requires constant reassurance.



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Related- Makow- Entertained to Death
---------  Managing the Male Sex Drive
----------Apology to a Young Woman for Noticing Her
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First Comment from Ian:

Hi Henry, I'm 63 and after a dirty look from a young girl for looking at her and obviously not seeing the, no not you, you old pervert sign, I asked an old guy I know, who must be 90 and can barely get about. I asked him, when does it stop? When do you stop turning and looking  at them as they go past because I'm getting tired of the dirty looks as they tug down on their coat to hide themselves from my oh so obviously unwanted gaze. He stood for a minute, then shook his head and said," you're gonna  need to speak to somebody  much older than I am son".    


 





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Comments for "Sex - Out of Sight, Out of Mind? "

C said (December 6, 2014):

It seems to me that the over-sexualization of women and the obsession men have w the female form, while not new, has been greatly enhanced by feminist culture, only inverted by women intent on using sexuality to get promotion, equal pay and power... this cynicism is the bedfellow of a culture dominated by men and how it sells itself to them. In part, because women no longer have the basic class and charm of being women, they resort to this, but undoubtedly, men have blame to share. More satanism undermining our roots.

Either way, it was not until I fasted on water for three days and prayed in Jesus's name on my own lusts and issues, that God lifted the filth from my eyes and thoughts and I realized how brainwashed I had been. It was like night and day. Like the snap of a finger that breaks a trance. It is nice to be reminded of a time when I knew girls as a child and saw them more innocently. Jesus says that there are some demons that only come out through fasting and prayer, so whenever I have an issue now I always turn to fasting, especially if prayer alone is not enough.

Yes, waking w "morning wood" is a good sign of healthy men processing testosterone properly, but making the jump from physical health to indiscriminate lusts for every beautiful woman we see is due to doors we have opened by allowing these thoughts: when we watch films that play on it without discernment, music that celebrates it, ANY thoughts we allow opens the doors and soon enough you can have a great big demon pushing you around into perverted thoughts and behavior beyond your control. The Lord's Prayer can also help when an annoying thought persists. We have to take responsibility in our actions and thoughts we allow and CHOOSE.

I have known men rich and poor display embarrassing uncontrollable leering and lust for nearly every woman who walks by them. I never understood the supernatural component of this and how Jesus can liberate us from it. One more reason Jesus is so distorted and maligned by culture.


TD said (December 6, 2014):

Job 31 v 1

“I made a covenant with my eyes
not to look lustfully at a young woman.


Stephen said (December 6, 2014):

A man of any age may appreciate beauty when he sees it – but I think you were talking about lust, not beauty. It’s not right for a man of any age to look lustfully at a woman (unless they are married to each other) - not right and not good for either of them.

The desire in a woman to inspire lust is just the female counterpart of the desire in a man to gratify his lust. Both genders need to rise above their animal natures to honour God and for their own good (of course those two reasons are one and the same).

It’s okay to appreciate beauty, like a classic car or a beautiful face. It’s not ok to covet that car or that girl. Not now, and not when you were 25. To the pure in heart all things are pure. Or we can remain beasts like the man in Synchronicity by the Police. “The secretaries pout and preen like cheap tarts in a red light street, and all he ever thinks to do is watch”


Countrywest said (December 5, 2014):

What’s this? You still watch television? I’m 64 now and I pitched mine before I was 30 years old.

Today, I’ll watch the Packers once in awhile……but that’s it. Even then, I’ll walk out mid game because I can’t stand the commercials. Of course, my friends and relatives all think I am crazy……but I get even by telling their kids to watch mommy and daddy’s face when they are watching TV……that’s when they have their zombie face on.

Get rid of your TV asap…..you won’t believe the changes it will make with your spouse and family.


KS said (December 5, 2014):

I concur with your readers that television is relentless and sophisticated mind pollution. Best not to watch any of it's aptly named 'programs'. I don't believe anyone can watch even small amounts of television without detriment.

But for the rest can we lighten up a bit? Lets enjoy the primal beauty of young women. It can be one of natures delights so long as we do not allow our selves through our own weakness to become infatuated by any one of them. We just need to remember that they become dangerous if we forget they are dangerous and that tomorrow may introduce us to yet another with her own unique charms.

"He who has no poetry in himself will find poetry in nothing". Joseph Jourbert


Sandeep said (December 4, 2014):

Having hotties presenting the news is not a match winner for the news outlets anymore. People care about content, and aren't deceived by the presenter themselves anymore. Declining viewers is the best evidence.

Women should get the attention of men, and not just ignore them just because they are perceptually attractive to the eyes. Maybe you as being someone who is married may not be the appropriate person to give girls the attention and validation because that should be reserved to the wife, but I think that men should go out there and just tell girls that they are pretty etc.

Women in the real world (even those that are really beautiful) are also victims of this 'hotness' bullshit in their own rights (for example poor self-esteem) and need validation more now than ever. I guess this is another reason to throw the TV out and go out into the real world.


Greg said (December 4, 2014):

For a man, to neutralize the ravages of the feminist age, the best course is non-sexuality. This creates a stand-alone engine of creative energy and self sufficiency. Non-sexuality also has the added benefit of nullifying the prevalent social constructs pushed by feminists and LGBT.

The non-sexual man is not defined by heterosexual, feminist, or LGBT sexual behavior so he simply does not care. Their issues do not enter his provenience of becoming a successful man.

Given the weaponization of sex in society today, it might prove beneficial for a man to become non-sexual so that he can pursue his full potential and spiritual capacity unhindered by the rusty drag hooks of sexual deviates.

Besides, this is the age of the make-over and when you look at these "pretty girls" you really do not know what hair color, eye color, face or body lift, even skin color, is behind the mask. It is a mask of deception and the mask wearers are desperate.


Marco A said (December 4, 2014):

"You can see how men in my position, probably 80% of all men, might find this frustrating."
"They are goddesses... I wonder how these young women must feel? To be venerated for sex appeal - something they did nothing to earn?"

It is very frustrating. I have begun simply treating women as if they are men, as a consequence for their 'feminism'. I used to try and be gentle with them, as if they were delicate and could be easily offended. They aren't delicate, and they are a monstrosity no matter what they look like, in my opinion. Society and culture did it's job on them and made them into selfish, shameless, indelicate, self-righteous monsters.

They definitely are not goddesses, but many (not all - to be fair) seem to think they are and that to simply look at them is some sort of sacrilege. Maybe I should sacrifice a couple bulls and burn some incense before smiling or talking to one next time.

One commenter said that they put woman as news casters out of a subversive intention. I can't help but agree with this. I was listening to the Communist Broadcasting Corporation on the radio on the way home today (woops, I mean the CBC), and it's nothing but a bunch of effeminate men whispering, while women (empowered by feminism) take the charge and proudly voice their opinions (which are generally repulsive - but the CBC is another topic altogether).

Overall, I'd rather swallow a gun than get married to one of these things called women these days. They imitate hyenas more than they emulate anything gentle, delicate, or even sentimental.


The So-called Jews portray the so-called American Negro as a Race of 'Thugs and Buffoons'

December 5, 2014

                                                                                

resizedbook-6.jpegby Mr. Jibril Muhammad

The So-called Jews portray the so-called American Negro as a Race of 'Thugs and Buffoons'

Brother Philip A. Muhammad has captured the very essence of the So Called International Jews and their existence, in his thought provoking book "The HipHop Nation: Willie Lynch's Newest Slave Brother," Philip has removed the scab and in his no-punches held style has exposed and brought to the surface the mind controlling techniques used by The 10 percent bloodsuckers.

Brother Philip has skillfully pointed out how the so-called American Jew is using the HIPHOP Nation and its Music, to transform slavery from a physical thang to a psychological thang. They are using the HipHop culture, as a tool to dummy down the black population and the population at large to further their effort at world dominance. The American Media, which is controlled by the "so called Jew", is practicing a new form of Slavery and Genocide, one that uses the Willie Lynch program of enslavement to transform Black America from a physical bondage to an economic, social and psychological bondage.

The American "so- called Jew" has been and is continuing to portray black America as lacking moral character. They continue to shape and provide a medium that allows the HIPHOP Nation to portray the so-called American Negro as a race of thugs and buffoons.  Brother Philip A. Muhammad will walk his readers through an elaborate system of historical collaborations between the media, Corporate America and the American Government that will lead to World Dominance over other Nations and their National Treasures.


INTERNET TROLLING AND THE WAR AGAINST GOD by Kevin Boyle

protocols_of_zion.jpgINTERNET TROLLING AND THE WAR AGAINST GOD  by Kevin Boyle

Goals of Protocols of Zion advanced by organized trolls on the Internet


WE SHALL DESTROY GOD

3. But even freedom might be harmless and have its place in the State economy without injury to the well-being of the peoples if it rested upon the foundation of faith in God, upon the brotherhood of humanity, unconnected with the conception of equality, which is negatived by the very laws of creation, for they have established subordination. With such a faith as this a people might be governed by a wardship of parishes, and would walk contentedly and humbly under the guiding hand of its spiritual pastor submitting to the dispositions of God upon earth. This is the reason why IT IS INDISPENSABLE FOR US TO UNDERMINE ALL FAITH, TO TEAR OUT OF THE MIND OF THE "GOYIM" THE VERY PRINCIPLE OF GOD-HEAD AND THE SPIRIT, AND TO PUT IN ITS PLACE ARITHMETICAL CALCULATIONS AND MATERIAL NEEDS.

                                                                         Extract from 'The Protocols of Zion, Protocol no. 4'

There is a YouTube clip titled "Christians get smashed to tiny idiotic shards by English Atheists" You will find it here. Note its 850,000 viewings.

Scrolling through the comments, about halfway down the page there is a thread started by one 'Jeff Brown'. If anyone cares to study this thread, particularly its later contributions, they will find textbook proof of organised, dishonest and malicious internet trolling by a group of posters who are, quite obviously an organised 'team'.

At a certain stage, when these people must have got tired of exchanges that they could not win, they all started "replying" to someone called 'Scott Zimmerman'.
It took a while to realise this, but 'Scott Zimmerman' does not exist anywhere on this or any other thread.
These posters were replying to a non-existent contributor in order to drive those who would challenge their propaganda off the thread and out of public view.

The arguments (pro or anti) are obviously irrelevant to them (and their employers). All that matters is the propaganda.

Here is a list of the names of the posters (all presenting a slightly different persona) who engaged in this tactic:

Jeff Brown
Denkanator
Sebastian Weetabix
Mr Planx
Jordy Van Ekelen

It is highly improbable that these characters are all the work of one demented God-hater. There are many articles about such trolling online.

Well, here's another one with the evidence to prove it.

Anyone who studies the comment threads online ('Alternet' particularly) that promote militant atheism (and often are drowning in highly offensive anti-Christian rhetoric) can observe similar exchanges.

I believe close study of the vile attacks on Christianity that appear just about everywhere such debates arise would reveal that this kind of trolling exists on a very large scale.

Who could hate Christianity and even belief in a creator consciousness we call 'God' so much?

Those who are determined to govern our minds.

And destroy our very souls.

That's who.

"Perplexed by Ferguson" by Wade

December 3, 2014

"ferguson.pngPerplexed by Ferguson by Wade 


I am very perplexed by the Ferguson insanity.

Fact...9 out of ten black people murdered are murdered by other black people.

Fact...There are more whites and Hispanics killed by police every year than blacks killed by police.

Fact...Martin Luther King once said in a speech that blacks made up 12% of the population in the city where he was speaking and yet committed 70% of the crime. The statistics nation wide today are similar.

Fact...There is REAL police misconduct going on and the Ferguson / Travon Martin false events only serve to
marginalize anyone who complains about legitimate cases of police committing crimes against citizens.

Our so called leaders in federal government are purposely stoking the racial fires here. The people who continue to be outraged over the self defense killing of a thug in Ferguson are completely unconcerned and in denial concerning the facts surrounding this event.

Pitting Americans against Americans is a divide and conquer strategy. The common enemy of all Americans are the globalists, new world order crowd. Watching people being so easily manipulated towards a race war is very disconcerting. Thanks to God we have some level headed, intelligent, black voices trying to bring some semblance of reason to the discussion.

Once again, we are witnessing yet another false flag attack aimed at our Constitution and Bill of Rights that could never ever go anywhere without the complete cooperation of the co-conspirators in the mainline news media.

Thanks for letting me vent Henry.