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Bill Cooper & Alex Jones - Soothsayer & Doomsayer

February 15, 2012


  BILLCOOPER.jpeg(left, William Cooper)


Nathan Weidmann, 30, describes his education
in the conspiracy and the man he came to trust
in contrast to another he is still wary of.  




by Nathan Weidmann
 (henrymakow.com)


"I beg you to note that among those making attacks upon us will also be organs established by us..."   -Protocol #12

I am no expert. I have not written any books. I am, however, a natural born skeptic. I was nine when I would sneak out of bed to watch the footage from Desert Storm on TV.  I remember the threat of the dreaded Scud missile, and the air raid sirens blaring. I wondered why they always showed the lights in the sky and the aftermath, yet no footage of the actual strike.

I was thirteen, and home from school on April 19, 1995, when the TV show was interrupted by breaking news from Oklahoma City. After initial reports of explosives being discovered inside the building, I wondered why this was later denied. I was curious whatever became of John Doe number three.

On the morning of September 11, 2001, I wondered how, after such a massive and complete failure of so many levels of American security and intelligence, Bin Laden was nearly immediately identified as the key suspect. I was twenty, and I started reading books.

Since that time, like so many other people, I have waded through a virtual ocean of books and videos. Each time I thought I was nearing the center of the labyrinth, I would find I was back at the beginning. Every time I thought I had identified the spider, I realized I was still tangled in the web.

CHANGE THROUGH CONTROLLED OPPOSITION

Early on I learned of the Hegelian theory of controlled opposition. To achieve synthesis requires two opposing forces. I could see how the theory applied to so many things, a magnet for one, with its opposite poles balanced in attraction, and the understanding that came when applied to so many "conspiracy theories".

 Capitalism vs. communism = financial control; moon landings vs. hoaxed moon landings = secret space mission; weapons of mass destruction vs. "no blood for oil" = occupation of ancient Babylon. I realized that this theory could be applied to some "conspiracy theorists" as well.  Truth vs. disinformation = confusion amongst truth seekers. The provocateurs out themselves when they lash out at other researchers and refuse even to acknowledge key pieces of information.

The late, great, Milton William Cooper told us to be suspicious of anyone claiming to tell the truth, especially him. Cooper was (and still is) subject to accusations ranging from disinformation agent to straight up whacko.

In the forward to his book "Behold a Pale Horse" Cooper states:

"...attempts to assassinate my character will continue and in all probability will become worse. Rather than let that get in the way, I want you to believe everything bad that you ever hear about me. See if that changes anything that I have been trying to tell you. See if it negates any of the proof."

Cooper was adamant that it was JFK's driver who fired the kill shot and that the Zapruder film was doctored. Jim Marrs, a veteran JFK researcher, says no way, it's not doctored, and what appears to be the driver shooting Kennedy is just an anomaly.

Is it simply by chance that this anomaly occurs at the same time as Kennedy's head explodes? Why instead of taking cover, does Mrs. Kennedy attempt to exit the vehicle at the rear? Isn't it possible that shots from the book depository and the grassy knoll served as distraction?

William Cooper was murdered almost two months after 9/11, on November 5, 2001. He was live on shortwave radio all day long on 9/11, and was blowing holes in the official story as it was emerging.

On June 28, 2001, Cooper had made the ominous prediction that before the year's end, a major attack would take place on American soil and it would be attributed to Osama bin Laden. Oddly enough, approximately one month later, Alex Jones made a similar prediction on his radio show.

Did one or both men actually know that the events of Sept.11 would take place? Is it possible that one or both men, based solely on their interpretations of current events, were so astute as to make such eerily accurate predictions?

William Cooper is dead. Alex Jones is the self-proclaimed 'granddaddy' of 9/11 Truth and has stated that there is no possible way that Israel played any part in the attacks.

JONES.jpeg(left, Alex Jones)

NEED FOR DISCERNMENT

In early 2000, Cooper, on his shortwave radio show 'Hour of the Time', played excerpts from Jones' new year's eve 1999 broadcast during which Jones reported that the Russians had launched long range nuclear missiles at targets in the US.

Cooper stated, in no uncertain terms, that Jones was a disinformer. In fact, he called him a liar and a 'bullshit artist'.

Here is a link to a thoroughly slanderous excerpt from an Alex Jones show, during which he states that William Cooper attacks him from the grave. It is from 2009:

 In my opinion, and certainly that of many others, William Cooper's book, "Behold a Pale Horse" is one of the most important 'conspiracy' books ever published, hands down. He was on shortwave radio for years with his show 'Hour of the Time'. He made a series of broadcasts in the early 90's which he called 'Mystery Babylon', an extremely comprehensive overview of the many facets of the New World Order, its roots and objectives.

William Cooper is absolutely crucial to understanding and, with all hope, subverting the coming attempt by dark powers to establish a global dictatorship and subjugate humanity in physical and spiritual enslavement. 

We must ultimately be our own light in the effort to see through the fear mongering of the agent provocateurs. We as humans are far more powerful than the 'powers-that-try-to-be' would like us to believe. The facts and the information are 'out there'. The TRUTH is within each and everyone one of us.
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Here is a link to the one and only time that William Cooper appeared on the Alex Jones show. From 1998.




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Comments for "Bill Cooper & Alex Jones - Soothsayer & Doomsayer "

Dave said (February 16, 2012):

The whole JFK driver theory cast a huge cloud of doubt over everything else Bill Cooper ever said.

.. And I watched the video of the film again and again and again.. Watched many different videos over and over... Sure enough it does look like the driver pulls a pistol and fires at the president.... It took about an hours worth of research to find very clear video that proves beyond all doubt that the "pistol" was actually the suns reflection off the front passengers head/hair.

If Bill Copper really believed JFK was shot by the driver than he is a complete idiot. However this theory did not originate with Bill Cooper. According to Bill, he was told this by a high level insider.

Besides we know who the shooter really was.. http://www.jfkmurdersolved.com/index1.htm


David said (February 16, 2012):

I listen to Alex Jones on many occasions and he flat out suggests Israeli involvement in 9/11!

Bill Cooper & Alex Jones - Soothsayer & Doomsayer - henrymakow.com

"William Cooper is dead. Alex Jones is the self-proclaimed 'granddaddy' of 9/11 Truth and has stated that there is no possible way that Israel played any part in the attacks."

WRONG!

Alex Jones Show Nov 24th 2008: Its The Zionists!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jSZjwXQrIg


Marcos said (February 16, 2012):

Cooper has to his credit the fact that he was one of the first influential new world order writers. However, his book is confusing and some of his positions, especially regarding aliens, were weird and detrimental to the serious study of the NWO. And committing " suicide by police" is not a good kind of example for anyone.

Why people hate Alex Jones so much? I understand that Jones is obnoxious. He, as other radio people, has to fill 3 hours of radio time with material for one. So he brags, rants, etc. He talks a lot about local Texas issues, which is a boring topic for foreigners. Sometimes he brings guests which are weird or plain communists, like Webster Tarpley. But most guests are conservative. The man is a professional, he built an efficient organization that delivers good information on a consistent and efficient basis. Who else can say that?

Jones by himself was responsible for awakening more people than all the other researchers combined. This leadership role brings all kinds of resentment and envy from people, because they wished Jones followed their own agenda. "

Alex should blame the Vatican" . "Alex should blame the Jews", etc. Grow up, already. Cooper was probably jealous of Jones's success when he attacked him.


Joe said (February 16, 2012):

The biggest difference between Cooper/Hour of the Time, and Jones, Icke, etc. is that Cooper not only educated his audience, but he taught them how to fight back. Jones and company merely analyze the news and whip people into a frenzy with no direction, effectively creating chaos. It is my belief that through this "chaos," the mystery schools will attempt to achieve their "order."

It is thanks to guys like William Cooper and Doyel Shamely (current H.O.T.T. host) that people have been educated and taught how to fight back. Henry, I thank you for having the courage to post this article!


Adam said (February 15, 2012):

"Signs and symbols rule the world" Confucius (I deliberately omit the "not words nor law" ending to this quote because, on that part, I believe he got it wrong)

Very well written article by Nathan. To throw-in my "two-cents" (things many may already know): Symbolism is of paramount importance in comprehending the nature of events...the reason why "magic" numbers and symbolism appear in all major controlled events -- on some levels it is "magic" or sorcery casting a spell over the masses.

For example: the twin towers, by design, represent "the 2 pillars" of the old order. In order to establish a "New Order" (Novus Ordo Seclorum) then the old order must be destroyed. To reiterate: The events on 9/11 signified the destruction of the old order -- how many noticed that 9/11 marked the end of an era? I am tempted to venture into the meanings of the numbers but I lose most people when I do that -- but do not doubt that TPTB play the numbers.


Truth said (February 14, 2012):

William Cooper was/is a very good man. He was honest, passionate about humanity, full of empathy and he truly cared about the Truth and the people. God bless him and his family. And a big thanks for the Hour Of The Time for keeping the site up and running and strong.

I dedicate a huge part of my awakening to William Cooper and ever since I read his book 'Behold A Pale Horse', I haven't stopped searching for the truth. My heart and mind will not let me quit.

Bill had and still has many enemies. I've come to learn that most truthers are afraid to mention Bill because of Bills fanbase. They know how straight up and honest we are. And we are definitely on to every bullshit artist out here. Most of these guys owe a lot of thanks to him for all the researching and hard work that he put into the spreading of the truth.

I do feel bad that the masses of the truth movement did not listen to him in 2000 and 2001 when he warned us about bullshit artists such as Jones and Icke.

These so called truthers care more about the money than they do about the masses. We should have run alex off the truth map years and years ago for his constant sensationalism and conjecture filled radio shows. I laugh in disgust when I see alex jones discredit 'Behold a pale horse' with his "Aliens videotaped jesus" nonsense. It is really funny how so many people have attacked him and accused him of being a crazy drunk, yet I've listened to him for 5 years now and he is NOTHING of that description.

Bill taught me a whole lot. Not only about this conspiracy but also about myself. I am truly thankful I have been blessed to get to know this man, not personally but passionately and spiritually. I owe a great deal of thanks to Bill for the knowledge and wisdom that I now possess and I really wish I would've have gotten the chance to meet him. Maybe someday I will, I'll leave that up to God.

Read everything, listen to everyone and believe only what you can prove from your own research.

"The biggest disappointment of my life was discovering that the American people are exactly what the Illuminati thinks they are, stupid animals"-W.C Rest in Peace


Vinny said (February 14, 2012):

Hi Henry, been thinking about this a lot recently and believe that Jones is just a trashy clone of Cooper, created to detract credibility and attention from him and the truth movement. Cooper was an out and out original whilst Jones just mimics Coopers no nonsense, brash style in a ribald, infantile manner, if you watch videos of callers questioning him on Cooper he seems petrified, then invents rubbish about him and himself as a child would.

Everything about the guy smacks of organized opposition, Hegelian dialectic etc, Coopers place in history however is yet to appreciated, for example, during that 9 hr 911 broadcast he speaks of recently having a stroke, which was why his speech was becoming slurred, yet he carried on for hours after anyway!



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