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Advice from Foreign Dating Service Operator

March 10, 2010

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C O N S E Q U E N C E S


"When you make stupid choices, stupid things happen to you. "



by Mark
(for henrymakow.com)


As a former owner of two dating services for men, I can tell you the blame falls on both sides. Many of these guys that came to me were scared to even speak to an American woman. They had issues and never really had a good relationship with any woman. In their minds they feel that because these ladies don't have much as far as money or schooling that they can own and run their lives the way they see fit. More like master and slave. That might work for a while, but after the lady gets to know people in the u.s and they see how she is treated, she finds out she doesn't have to be the slave to this man, that other couples are more equal then she and him.
 
Many times, these men are so blinded by this young playboy bunny of a girlfriend and the wonderful sex that they are now getting, they lose what little mind and control they have. I have seen men come to Colombia and meet a lady and a week later get married to her. What would happen if you tried that with a u.s. lady? Then act like you can't speak but 10 percent English.  She would think you're nuts, but yet they come here and do that all the time, and then cry because it doesn't work.
 
The lady they pick gives up everything she has ever known, all family, friends, food, everything to come to the u.s. with a man and do what? sit in the house all day with nothing while he works, then he comes home wanting a meal and some t.v. and then more sex. What life does she have? Who wouldn't get tired of that over a few months?
 
All these women come from poor backgrounds, and family is everything to them. Can anyone blame them for asking her new husband to help her family?  My wife is Colombian, and when she came back to the u.s. with me and saw my home, she asked me how many families live here? Her family home had 12 people living in it, and it was the size of my living room.
 
MY EXPERIENCE

I have been married to this lady for 6 years, we have never had a fight. She doesn't have a car, nor a credit card, even though I have offered to give her both. I have to force her to spend money on herself.  I send $200.00 per month back to her family which is about what I spend on my two cats and one dog. We have two little girls, one 3 years and one 4 months old.  This lady treats me like a king and always has.
 
Why is this? was I just the lucky one out of hundreds?  no..  I spent time in that country. I dated many women; I learned the players and could spot one after a hour or so of being with them. I wasn't blinded by her looks and so happy that a woman that looked like this wanted to be with me.  In other words, the little head wasn't doing all the thinking and talking. 
 
Women are women, no matter where they were born. Yes they have another culture but they are all the same. They all look for a man who can provide for them and their children. It's the same in the animal kingdom where the male moose fight to see who has the right to breed. The females watch and won't breed with the loser.  
 
Yes, many of these type of marriages fail, and you have these guys now writing how bad things were, but yet I bet you that you can find four men that can tell you just as many horror stories about what their ex from New York did to them.  I feel that your web site If it really is based on trying to save males, would be a ton more helpful to point out many of the facts to some of these losers before it happens to them. Not just letting them write how it ended up. Hell anyone thinking with their big head could tell you how it will end up.
 
FOR EXAMPLE

Just read that post by
"Brokenhearted Brit" ---

"
Despite her speaking no English and my Chinese being basic at the time, we seemed to hit it off."
 
"My wife (then my girlfriend) told me she loved me and I was suckered in by her victim sob-story of how her violent dad would throw her against walls which is why she behaves like a demented control-freak most of the time: has to have her own way, be right about everything and have an opinion about everything..."
 
"She's massively insecure and this is just compensatory behaviour "
 
Now are you freaking kidding me? My god who could have ever bet this marriage would fail!!!!
 
I see the same thing here in Panama. American's spend their whole lives seeing tv spots and books saying that you have made it  if you could ever retire and be able to live on the beach.  It's all a pipe dream once they get there. Most are ready to sell and move within two years.***

These men jumping into a marriage are the same as diving off a 50 ft cliff into water that they have no idea is 3 ft deep. If they would take the time to learn about these countries and their customs, as well as take the time to get to know a new lady friend, I would think that many would pick better partners, and end up happy instead of on your site telling how bad the ladies are.
 
TYPICAL CLIENTS

From 5 years in the dating service, I would say that 90 percent of the guys that used us spent two weeks there.  Here's a normal call from them: "Hello, this is Fred TyLer from Kansas and myself and my boy who is 24 are planning to come down next month. We picked the ladies number 345 and 192 that we want to meet. We will be there for 8 days. Can you get all the paperwork done so we can marry them and that way they can fly back with us?
 
Now think about that, here this father and son are looking at a photo, never once even thought about IF these two ladies would even like them, have never spoken to them, but yet are planning to fly in, marry them and take them home all within 8 days. Not only the problems above, but they have no clue what it takes to bring those ladies back to the U.S.  Do you or your son speak Spanish Fred?  ahhhh   no.
 
Wow I foresee two more men who will be adding their letters to your site.  When you make stupid choices, stupid things happen to you.  Most all the guys who wrote you made stupid choices so why are they so shocked and hurt about it now?
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***Well the point is that people stuck in a 9 to 5 job, talking the L train to and from their jobs while there is 4 ft of new snow out, get to look at what is sold to them as paradise, sunny weather with the ocean sounds. What it turns out to be is hot as hell, sand fleas, and sand everywhere in your home, from the crack of your ass to your dinner.   These guys are sold much in the same way,  that these women from other countries are that paradise, young, tanned, fit women, like the sunny, white beaches with clear water, they both have there draw backs.

 



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Comments for "Advice from Foreign Dating Service Operator"

MM said (March 13, 2010):

The "foreign wife" issue raises many racial issues. White men should marry white women and have white babies. And blacks should have black babies, and orientals and Jews and Arabs and Colombians, and everybody else on planet earth, should simply make their own babies after their own race. What is so radical about that idea? Homogeneous babies grow up knowing who they are and they aren't separated from a thousand years of national identity by the reckless act of race mixing. But don't ask people today to care about their children. The poor little brats should be grateful they weren't cut into pieces and vacuumed-out by the state funded abortionist. The NWO breaks up families, communities, and nations, and the mixed race kids that are produced are in turn cynically used justify the further imposition of a one-world borderless police state.


Larry said (March 12, 2010):

am a Canadian and five and half years ago I found a women that was perfect for me and she was Colombian. There are probably 10 horror stories for every success story regarding women married to Gringos. As has been stated if you don't do your homework then expect to fail, as it is with education of any type.

My wife and I met on line in a chat room. We talked for about 3 months before we even exchanged photos. I needed a vacation and decided to venture to Colombia to meet her and experience the country, and one trip led to another and at the end of the second trip I knew this was a woman worth moving a mountain for.

Perhaps I am one of the lucky ones but I have found a women who is not only attractive but is truly beautiful to the core. She is in a select group here in Colombia. I am not saying most of the women are bad, are evil or are gold or green card diggers. There are certainly those types here. I have seen them too many times to count. Most of the Gringos I see here though are looking for the trophy, the walking BLING if you will and as long as they have the money they will find just that.

This is a culture you need to understand and unfortunately most that come here looking for a wife and some cases a husband do not look into what the culture here is all about. The women as has been mentioned are deeply family oriented. It was strange to me at first that many children live at home until they get married, in Canada the children can not wait to leave the home as soon as they graduate high school. Family is the most important thing for a women here and is important for the males as well.

I see that with my wife, her family is very small, but there is not a day goes by that she does not know what is going on in each of their respective lives. I think this is wonderful and one of the reasons I love the woman. In fact she has taught me to be a little more associated with my family, something that was weaned away from me from having several failed relationships in Canada.

I have no regrets about having married this woman. I do know that I had I taken her back to Canada to live instead of making it work here in Colombia there would have been a strong possiblity that this marriage would not have worked. I am afraid that while talk is cheap in regard to family there, when the rubber meets the road most men and women in North America will put career ahead of the family. I have seen it, lived it and never did win the T-shirt.


Dani (Female) said (March 12, 2010):

We get back what we put out. The law of attraction, as it's called. There are pretty, honest, decent women still to be found in the Western world (and you've received at least two letters from two readers attesting to finally finding their Mrs. Right in their own backyard after going around the world) so if a guy is going to a third world country to find a (often times barely legal) female to be his wife then there's usually a little bit more going on there. Not always, but probably in many cases.

In my opinion it's being a predator, even if they can't/won't acknowledge it. So if you're a predator, then don't be surprised to receive the same treatment in return by opportunistic females who see through the charade.

I once worked for a short bit of time at a law firm in south Florida where one of the physically ugly, socially nerdy attorneys who was in his 50s sought out an 18 year old "wife" from the Czech Republic.

When I look at that I just see a dirty old predator looking for some young, easy, free, hot tail that he'd never be able to score in the U.S. and who thought he could accomplish this by going to a country that has a struggling economy, using the "Financially Established Successful White Male" bait as the lure.

From what I heard it all blew up in his face, and after a year the barely legal teen girl was so homesick (and probably so repulsed at what basically amounted to being a prostitute to a physically repulsive man) that she ran back to the Czech Republic.

These guys probably think they're playing the girls, "Oh look, young, sweet, free hot tail who will come running when they see the Successful White Male pulling out a wad of dough!" but the girl is really playing them.

Everybody has a motive, some of these guys just haven't acknowledged that they had their shadow side motivations too, and are still being playing the resentful victim.

I think the guys who land the foreign girls/women who turn out to be genuine, and who find themselves in a successful, honest marriage without game playing (ie, they're not being a predator who's secretly on the hunt for barely legal, easy, desperate females) are probably honest and genuine themselves. They got back what they put out.


Rick from FL said (March 12, 2010):

This guy gives you the impression, he is the only one who end up with a female who turned out half decent and blame all men for not doing it his way. To begin with, I have been to Colombia several times, while working for the State Department. Women there, love ANYTHING NOT Colombian.

They know you are a gringo, a one way out of their miserable existence.The problem is, if you don't know how they operate, you will fall for their tricks and fall flat on your face. Once you realized your infinite mistake, it's already too late. You bring them to the States, which is a very lengthy and expensive process. When you go to work, they are out there meeting and talking to everybody. They meet Bertha and she will proceed to tell them how we do things here in America.

"Well honey, let me tell you, this IS America and we do not practice this "fidelity" B.S. Your body is yours and you can do with it as you please and whom you please with. Now, if he tries to have sex with you and you don't want to, call 911 and tell them he tried to rape you". (that's the first phone number they learn).These colombians have a reputation of being as evil as they come. Once they get their "green card", they hire a barracuda(attorney) and they take everything you have EVER worked for and there is nothing you can do about it .

Now, if you have kids, and they make sure to get pregnant the first time you looked at them, they will squeeze money out of you for the next 18 years. Of course, this is providing they don't make "false allegations" making your life a living hell/nightmare for the next ten years. To make matters worse, the system is "backing" them 100%, with every evil deed they can ever come up with. This is a lot more than just a "mistake". Finally, between the evil ex and the family courts system, there are times when you wished you were dead. There is no "behind" worth that kind of torture.


Robert said (March 12, 2010):

I think your discussion is progressing.
It's gone from a little naieve about how
Asian women are so much more loving
and feminine to more realistic about
oversimplifying the problem of the sexes--
and just leaving the country...

I wish there would more work done
domestically to establish norms of
brotherhood, where men congregate
to cultivate shared consciousness in
sports, music skills development and
philosophical discussions about manhood,
in privacy from women, but independent
of financial/statist interest.


Henry Makow received his Ph.D. in English Literature from the University of Toronto in 1982. He welcomes your comments at