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How Luciferians Think

August 11, 2015

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Luciferians like Max More, left, present a caricature of God as some kind of perverse school master. Then they demolish this invention and proclaim Lucifer as the enemy of "superstition" and champion of personal freedom and reason. 

What a joke. What pompous, pathetic assholes.

God doesn't resemble their straw man. He is synonymous with spiritual absolutes: Love, Truth, Beauty, Justice, Peace. 

Jesus said: "God is a Spirit: ...worship him in spirit and in truth." John 4:24

"Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect." Matt 5:48

Who in their right mind can deny that humans crave spiritual ideals, which are necessary for our survival and development? Who would thumb their noses at God? Luciferians are behind all the "progressive" movements -- Communism, Socialism, Liberalism-- that use "social change" to mask their hidden agenda, the induction of mankind into their satanic cult.



"No more gods, no more faith, no more timid holding back. Let us blast out of our old forms, our ignorance, our weakness, and our mortality. The future belongs to posthumanity." -- Max More, On Becoming Posthuman.




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by Max More
"In Praise of the Devil"
(abridged by henrymakow.com)



The Devil - Lucifer - is a force for good. 'Lucifer' means 'light-bringer' and this should begin to clue us in to his symbolic importance. 

The story is that God threw Lucifer out of heaven because Lucifer had started to question God and was spreading dissension among the angels. ...

The truth may just as easily be that Lucifer resigned from heaven. God, being the well-documented sadist that he is, no doubt wanted to keep Lucifer around so that he could punish him and try to get him back under his (God's) power. Probably what really happened was that Lucifer came to hate God's kingdom, his sadism, his demand for slavish conformity and obedience, his psychotic rage at any display of independent thinking and behaviour. 

Lucifer realized that he could never fully think for himself and could certainly not act on his independent thinking so long as he was under God's control. Therefore he left Heaven, that terrible spiritual-State ruled by the cosmic sadist Jehovah, and was accompanied by some of the angels who had had enough courage to question God's authority and his value-perspective.

Lucifer is the embodiment of reason, of intelligence, of critical thought. He stands against the dogma of God and all other dogmas. He stands for the exploration of new ideas and new perspectives in the pursuit of truth.

God demands that we believe everything that he tells us, and that we do everything that he says without questioning. Destroy a tribe including the women, children and animals down to the last one? (Joshua 6.21) Why of course. Wait a minute, this doesn't seem very nice. 



FOR LIFE, LIBERTY AND PROPERTY
Yes sir, God Sir, whatever you say. See, here I am burning their books, pulling out their nails, torturing them for questioning Church dogma, banning the use of anaesthetic in child-bearing (since the pain is their just punishment for the acts of Adam and Eve). Help! I thought an improper thought! Help me to blind my mind God, help me not to see what my reason tells me. Let me repress thoughts of sexual desire, doubts about you and your orders, feelings of tolerance.

A FORCE FOR RATIONALITY

They call Lucifer the Prince of Lies. ...The "lies" of Lucifer are attacks on irrational beliefs, beliefs based on fear and conformity to authority. Of course we should not call these lies. They are temptations to think for ourselves, a call for independent thought, a plea for taking responsibility for our own thinking and our own lives. Praise Lucifer! Praise the pursuit of truth through rationality. God was right to tell us not to worship false idols, but he refrained from telling us that all idols are false, and that all worship is dangerous. 

Even our praise of Lucifer must not be worship of an idol, but rather an expression of our agreement with his value-orientation and his perspective.

God and his Godists hate Lucifer's call for rationality. Critical thinking digs at the very roots of God's and their power over our minds. Independent thinkers do not make good slaves. Lucifer is the Prince of Lies because he is an expert at helping us to be rational....

THE VIRTUE OF PLEASURE

God also hates us to enjoy ourselves. If we let ourselves experience too much pleasure then we might lose interest in obeying him. We might start running our own lives to bring us positive rewards rather than directing ourselves to avoid his wrath. We might become focussed on pursuing the positive instead of avoiding the negative. That would result in the downfall, of religious and state authority, so God has to stamp out such tendencies.

 He hates Lucifer who keeps turning up and tempting us to have a good time, to enjoy our lives. Adam and Eve's sin was to eat of the fruit of the tree of knowledge. They dared to disobey a direct order which God expected them to obey without question, blindly. They acquired reason and intelligence to eat of the fruit of the tree of knowledge. They acquired reason and intelligence, and an ability to decide for themselves the values that they would pursue. Ever since then humans have been uppity - always given God trouble. ...

THE VIRTUE OF SELFISHNESS

... Lucifer perseveres in trying to point out to us that we have no reason to accept altruism. We can choose our values for ourselves, just as we can think for ourselves. Lucifer himself values the pursuit of happiness, knowledge, and new experiences. Most of all he values self- responsibility and independence even if that means that some people will not choose to value the things that he values. The extropians among us who share his perspectives and value- orientation should help him in his work.


PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY


In ending this discussion, I want to remind you that you are all Popes. You are all your own highest authority. You are the source of your action. You choose your values - whether you do so actively or by default. You choose what to believe, how strongly to believe, and what you will take as disconfirming evidence. No one has authority over you - you are your own authority, your own value-chooser, your own thinker. Join me, join Lucifer, and join Extropy in fighting God and his entropic forces with out minds, our wills and our courage. God's army is strong, but they are backed by ignorance, fear and cowardice. Reality is fundamentally on our side. Forward into the light!
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Thanks to David Livingstone for this tip! His "Transhumanism: How the Illuminati Depose God" appeared Sunday.

Related- I Asked Atheists How They Find Meaning In A Purposeless Universe


New First Comment from Tony B:

The only knowledge necessary here is that there is only one creator, God.  All else is created by Him.  It only makes sense to obey the commands of such a One, not listen to another creature's promising lies.

The world, especially that of European peoples, did not make a single jump back to satanism after the Christian era.  It was induced by increments, the major one the nice sounding word "Liberalism," the true meaning of the word being liberty from God's commands.  Progression to "the rights of man," promoted in American history books as a wonderful view of the founders (actually masons), was a major phrase of that liberalism as those words in turn meant that man would run the show, not God.  After all, those terms came about when nations were generally led by kings who, if they veered too far from Christian principles were liable to excommunication by the Church which Christ set up on earth.  If that were to happen they could no longer function as kings as no one in a truly Christian world at that time would obey them.  Therefore, the rules of God were generally obeyed, if not in heart by some, at least by law.  

The "liberals" changed that with the revolutions that overthrew Christian royalty, mostly the French but that of the American colonies was of the same tone and cooperated with the French, even though Henry VIII had centuries before destroyed English Christianity and incubated perfidious Britain. 

One more comment, the concept that we have no free will because God knows already what we will do is Calvinist (Cavin or Cohen) nonsense.  WE have the choice, God knowing what we will chose does not change the FACT that we can chose whatsoever we will, and we do.  

God runs a type of benevolent dictatorship, he lays out the rules, we can obey or disobey.  If we obey we reap the rewards He promises, if we disobey we reap the punishment He promises.  The only "democratic" part of it is that He allows us to chose as we will.  He also gives us opportunities to gain forgiveness for disobedience and, again, we have the choice of obeying or disobeying.  Pretty simple, one has to be mislead by worldliness to miss seeing it.



Comments for "How Luciferians Think"

Mart said (August 13, 2015):

I saw some comments concerning whether we have a free will or not. God does give us a free will to choose Him or not and He allows adversities into our lives to get our attention and make that choice. I have seen a picture of Jesus Christ knocking on a door that has no handle on the outside and can only be opened from the inside by the one who lives there.

That is where our free will gives us the choice to open the door or not. If we open it God WILL be in our lives but not in ways that our puny little minds cannot, at first, comprehend. It is only, as time passes, that we do start to understand His workings in our lives. Satan is instantaneous with his lures and I truly believe that is how Luciferians get trapped and why they think like they do. Be safe


Milton said (August 12, 2015):

Tony B said the Calvin was wrong about not having free will. I am reading Edward Hendrie's book 'The Anti-Gospel ' the moment and it seems that Calvin had a point. It is that we do not have free will to choose God because man is spiritually dead . The grace, faith and then the salvation are all a work/gift of God. God calls his elect we do not choose God. That is why many are called but few chosen. I suggest people read this book as it shows how we have been a taught a faith based on works not grace. We have free will in everything else but not salvation.

Luciferianism always results in freedom for the few and the enslavement of the many to human dictatorship, selfishness and tyranny. Also, as Richard Wurmbrand said in his book 'Marx & Satan' he is untrustworthy and will betray all his friends at the last.


Dan said (August 11, 2015):

Max isn't a real Luciferian. He's really a 'positive Nihilist'. They don't believe life or the universe is a creation, therefore there's no purpose or meaning. Unlike Camus, who said "the only serious philosophical question is whether or not to commit suicide", the positive Nihilists see pointlessness is the ultimate freedom. They can dump all pretense of altruism and be like Ayn Rand.

Everyone knows the line "We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists", from the alleged Illuminati plan to foment three world wars, supposedly addressed to Mazzini by Albert Pike in 1871. The attribution may be a hoax, but even so, the earliest appearance of the following plan in print was in a French book titled 'Le Palladisme', published in 1895.

"We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time."


C said (August 11, 2015):

Well, I think this guy is too much as his name implies. I agree with everyone--it's like it was written by an articulate five yr. old.

Anyway, of course we need to think for ourselves and decide which way we will go--that is the essence of free will. And we are all free to do our own will to our own detriment. And that's why it's obvious we have free will.
Having said that, it occurs to me that most "Christians" don't follow God's word: on a very basic matter, read what Jesus says about divorce--He is very explicit.

Things were no different 2000 yrs ago when He excoriated the Jews b/c they used legalistic thinking [rationalizations] to get around God's word such as citing "corban" in Mark 7 so as to not support one's parents.

Personally, I think most of us are frightfully selfish and pretty stupid at that, so I'm glad that God gave us a set of morals that are easy (intellectually) to follow.
But "Ye shall be as gods" is the devil's siren call which has beckoned through the ages.

It's just a question of how much we believe in Him to actually follow His way. When we do, we find that our lives have less and less contradictions and are more cohesive and integrative, regardless of how successful we are outwardly.

And this is so for societies as well. They cannot stand on something as illusive as "reason" [read rationalization] b/c we need God and His transcendent holy reason to unify us all into doing the right thing.


WB said (August 11, 2015):

Max Moore and other trans-humanists sense that there really is a God and Lucifer though they deny the physical existence of such beings. They fear death above all and are desperate to escape it through trans- human existence.

They espouse independent thinking and action. The truth is that they do not have free will because they are a created being. They were predestined to follow the path that they follow. This is all backed up by Biblical scripture. Only the creator has free will, not the created. I am in the small minority of Christians that believe this. Apostle Paul understood it and talks about it in Romans.

Only God has free will. A sovereign, all knowing God creates beings that are already known completely. That is why Lucifer could never defeat God because God created him knowing every decision and action he would ever make. Man can experience God's free will when he accepts Christ and then is indwelled by His Spirit. However, no one comes to the Father unless He draws him to Himself. That is what Christ meant when he said that He was the truth and the truth can make you free. You only experience His free will when you become conformed to the Holy Spirit. You cannot even be conformed to God's Spirit unless He allows it.


Larry C said (August 11, 2015):

WB flies by the seat of his pants and says:

"The truth is that they do not have free will because they are a created being. They were predestined to follow the path that they follow. This is all backed up by Biblical scripture. Only the creator has free will, not the created."

Who are you going to believe? WB or the Bible?

"The mind of man plans his way, But the Lord directs his steps." Proverbs 16:9 NASB

There's an invitation at the end of the Bible that we humans have the choice to accept or reject:

"The [Holy] Spirit and the bride (the church, the true Christians) say, Come! And let him who is listening say, Come! And let everyone come who is thirsty [who is painfully conscious of his need of those things by which the soul is refreshed, supported, and strengthened]; and whoever [earnestly] desires to do it, let him come, take, appropriate, and drink the water of Life without cost." Revelation 22:17 AMP

And most of us have chosen to reject it.


Henrique said (August 11, 2015):


I believe in God, in a creator, but despise these caricatures created by the Religions; and the fact that these silly, spoiled mommy's boy "Satanists" are attacking them pleases me. Make no mistake, Christianism today is nothing but military-worship, government-worship, anti-Islam bigotry. It lost it's transcendence ( exaltation of the individual human life ) and became just another subculture, a hip ideology ( it's "cool" to criticize Islam today in many circles, including some alternative/patriot ones ).


John said (August 11, 2015):

Thinks he is smart, but really is A USEFULL IDIOT (per Stalin) .
Ex Navy, John


Al Thompson said (August 11, 2015):

Frankly, this guy More gives assholes a bad name. Maybe we should call them "trans-assholes." This guy is extremely immature and seems to be angry with God. Of course, if he didn't act like a jerk, his life would be better. Luciferians are condemned by their own choice and that's really stupid. People who oppose Luciferian doctrines should try to keep separated from them.

Of course he's a liar because all new world order types are chronic liars. The truth is dangerous to them as they will always be exposed by the truth. These are not very bright people. They don't have their intellectual pubic hairs. They may have the body of an adult, but inside, they are immature and puerile. This is the kind of material that can lower one's IQ by at least 5 points.
http://verydumbgovernment.blogspot.com/2012/07/anger-and-evil-are-immature.html


James C said (August 11, 2015):

Everything Max More says is a lie. He is parroting Helena Blavatsky and Albert Pike. Through life extension technologies, the Luciferians are attempting to gain the immortality they lost through sin.

I don't know what "god" More is referring to, but the God of the Bible doesn't ask anyone to accept anything on sheer faith. Neither is He against reason and critical thinking.


Henry Makow received his Ph.D. in English Literature from the University of Toronto in 1982. He welcomes your comments at