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Could Electoral College Overturn Election?

December 18, 2016

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I doubt Electors will break ranks. But Dick Eastman thinks 
we could be in 
for a coup d'etat,
constitutional crisis 
and civil disturbances.



Latest - Fears Appear Unfounded; GOP Electors Solid
------------  Death Threats, Police Protection
-------------Results May not be Known Today


by Dick Eastman
(abridged by henrymakow.com)

As the electoral college officially determines the next president of the United States, there is record cold weather throughout the United States. Also circulating these contrived falsehoods: 

1) that stories heard against Hillary Clinton prior to the election were Fake News, 
2) that an "enemy" country's "dictator" deprived the US of its rightful leader by hacking and releasing the private emails of the national committee of the candidate targeted for undeserved defeat,
3) that 1 & 2 were decisive in changing the outcome of the election.
4) that the targeted candidate nonetheless received 2 million more votes than the candidate backed by the hacking foreign enemy, and finally, 
5) that the electoral college electors are free agents by the wording of the Constitution and need not be bound by the decisions of voters, especially when an enemy-foreign-power-rigged election means that the popular vote has been tainted by systematic interference by an hostile foreign power.

On the basis of all of the above, and the fact that Trump electors are being pressured to a degree and in ways not fully known to the public -- but enough to turn many Republican electors to not voting for the choice of their state's voters -- with one so intimidated that he has simply decided not to exercise his responsibility as a chosen elector at all -- I SAY IT IS LIKELY THAT 
1) DONALD TRUMP WILL NOT RECEIVE 270 ELECTORAL VOTES TOMORROW. 
2) THE ELECTORS WILL NOT SIMPLY ABSTAIN FROM VOTING OR VOTE FOR THE THIRD PARTY CANDIDATES, BUT WILL ELECT HILLARY CLINTON OUTRIGHT -- BECAUSE THAT WAY THE ELECTION WILL NOT BE THROWN TO THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES WITH ITS STRONG REPUBLICAN MAJORITY UNLIKELY TO VOTE AGAINST THE REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE THAT ALMOST ALL REPUBLICANS BELIEVE WON THE ELECTION BY THE RULES.

My position is this:

We did not pick the existing electors of 2016 on the basis of their ability to search and select the best candidate for president. The electors are in fact unknown by the voters who picked them indirectly through the party system process -- picked them without even knowing their names. 

The electors were not chosen as free agents of discretion to pick a president, nice as that idea may be. They were chosen under the party system to vote for the party's candidate should the party's candidate win the election. That makes all the difference. The electors we have today, December 17, 2016, are not Constitution-specified electors free-to find candidates, sift their merits and vote them president and vice president as the Founding Fathers intended them to be. 

Instead they are party system electors, chosen behind the scenes by the political parties as captive electors, unknown and unchosen by the public. IF PARTY SYSTEM ELECTORS AFTER AN ELECTION CAN BE INTIMIDATED OR OTHERWISE "CONVINCED" TO BREAK THE RULES OF THE PARTY-SYSTEM ARRANGEMENT... THE SELECTION OF HILLARY CLINTON AS PRESIDENT TOMORROW WOULD AMOUNT TO A COUP D'ETAT. AND IT WILL BE TOO COLD FOR THE NEXT FEW WEEKS FOR PEOPLE TO DEMONSTRATE AGAINT THE EVENT -- GIVING IT SOLIDARITY -- ESPECIALLY AS THE FACEBOOK IS ABOUT TO BE FILTERED FOR "FALSE NEWS" AND AS THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA HAS ALREADY BEEN NON-STOP CONDITIONING PEOPLE TO ACCEPT THIS OUTCOME SINCE THEY HAVE GIVEN IT A SPURIOUS LEGITIMACY BY THEIR ENDLESS STORIES ABOUT RUSSIAN HACKING AND FALSE NEWS AGAINST CLINTON.

And of course, I am a marginalized man -- what I say here... will not be shared by more than a handful -- even if it had time to get out there. In other words the coup will work -- organized crime will not be deposed.

Tomorrow will tell.
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First Comment from David

Eastman is taking this part of the coup too seriously. There will be some electors that break rank, but not the needed 37.  In any event, Hillary has no path to election tomorrow.  If 37 bound to Trump changed their vote then there will be investigations about what was done to turn them, and this won't go over well in House deliberations.  Nobody believes the "Putin did it" narrative.  I live in a community that voted 80% for Hillary and nobody I've talked with believes this bogus story about the Russians.

What's more likely is that Trump will be elected but one member in each house will object triggering a congressional review on Jan 6th.  More worrisome is Obama using executive powers to do something before January 20th in response to something he may not like in the full review he ordered.


What's interesting is to see a full blown coup out in the open in the USA.  Before the election, I read something criptic about the confidence George Soros had in the yet to be impaneled Electoral College.  Now I know there was a plan to manipulate the outcome in the event Hillary lost.

 


Scruples - the game of moral dillemas

Comments for "Could Electoral College Overturn Election?"

LD said (December 19, 2016):

Such a coup would set a precedence for direct democracy the effect of which masquerades as the will of the people what in reality is a provocateur controlled electorate.

Americans are stupid. What else can be said? The last three presidents were a string of crooks bearing down on the public with unmitigated vice: frat/Clinton, intel/Bush, religion/Obama. Trump= potential for economic crisis.

Do recall Trump's introduction to the US in The Apprentice, "You're FIRED!" He was talking to America, and yet Americans have embraced him as their savior.

The only way Hillary Clinton would be elected is if they have designed some unimaginable economic crisis around her administration, otherwise, Trump will take the Whitehouse.

My own prediction is they need him there to fulfill their Skull and Bones agenda for a fourth 8 year administration followed by an international crisis that will manifest in the US opportunistic for martial law and a third term that will last two years.

When these monsters nuke the Tigris, humanity can kiss it's soul goodbye, in my opinion.


Don said (December 19, 2016):

There is a lot of debate going on about the validity of the Electoral College.

California is the most populous state estimated at 39,144,818 in 2015. California has more people than the following western states: Washington, Oregon, Nevada, Arizona, New Mexico, Colorado, Utah, Wyoming, Idaho, Montana, North Dakota, South Dakota, Alaska, Hawaii and the New England state of Vermont combined.

California also has the highest number of illegal aliens in the USA and many of them were able to vote because of lax voter requirements. Our forefathers had the wisdom to create the Electoral College so that the less populous states would have a say in how this country would be run. If the Electoral College was done away with as some suggest states like California, Texas, Florida and New York would control the rest of the states.


Al Thompson said (December 18, 2016):

I'm not sure if any of this matters. I'd like to think that Trump has our best interests in mind, but I look at him with a jaundiced eye. The main problem is the structure of the government itself. it is a feudalistic-communist system and it really doesn't matter who is in office. We all live under a communist slave state and that cannot be denied.

All these elections do is to allow the slaves to choose their masters. With the recent disclosures and suspicions of government involved child sex trafficking, I don't see how anyone with a conscience for the children could vote for any of these moral retards.

The government is indeed organized crime with a monopoly on the use of violence and they don't want anyone else to use it against them. If this "coup" actually comes to be, then the slaves will never choose their masters ever again. And that may be a good thing.
http://verydumbgovernment.blogspot.com/2015/07/voting-condones-evil.html


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