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US Family Finds a Future in Argentina

November 17, 2011

Dec. 20, 2013 - EDITOR'S NOTE: This did not work out as hoped. Do not pursue. 

Cafayate copy.jpgby Gary Kinghorn

I'm writing to you from northwestern Argentina ( Cafayate in Salta province) where I have relocated with my wife and our three young children.

I know that many millions of people in the US and Canada are deeply concerned about where their countries are going. After years of trying to educate friends and family of the coming financial collapse, and engaging in whatever political activism I could, including being a very early and vocal supporter of Ron Paul, any rational person would realize that the time to stay and fight has long since past.

I've even changed my opinion that the problem is primarily the egregious political class we have elected (President and Congress), but that the fundamental problem is that tens of millions of Americans (and Canadians) don't have any idea what's going on and continue to participate in their own destruction.

For the US, Bush and Obama aren't so much the problem as are the 50-60 + million people who got them elected. I admire the convictions of the minority that want/need to stay and fight for "their" country, but when I see no future for my children, and I'm primarily concerned for their safety, it's time to go.

cafayate.jpgWHERE TO GO

In considering almost the entire world to pursue independence, safety and opportunity, one can quickly rule out Europe (breaking up faster than N. America), Asia (too difficult to assimilate), and Africa (nowhere is safe).

We quickly gravitated towards the cone of South America (Chile, Argentina, and Uruguay). There are other interesting opportunities in Latin America for second citizenship, economic opportunities, and tropical climates, but most of Latin America is still under the thumb of the American military complex, and I'm more convinced that the Southern Hemisphere will be safer from the coming collapse and geopolitical fallout.

Chile, Argentina and Uruguay each have their merits and challenges, and I wouldn't disparage anyone for considering any one of them.  However, by far the most important thing to consider no matter where you go is that you  are a part of a community. When the going gets tough, and IT WILL, a warm and inviting foreign populace is not going to cut it. You need a COMMUNITY of trusted, deeply committed, like-minded folks that really love each other and are committed to each other's safety.

While I originally had my eyes set on Uruguay (and still have invested in property there), I eventually became part of a near ideal community here in the wine country of Argentina. There are hundreds of ex-pats settling in this remote region of the Calchaqui Valley, the vast majority from the US and Canada.

The founders of the community were the governors of this Salta province, so we have some political clout, but also Doug Casey, a legendary investment adviser, financial writer, and author of the best-selling book "The International Man" back in the 70's.

Everyone here knows the geopolitical turmoil that we are facing, and are reasonably like-minded in how to approach these challenges. Most of us are loosely libertarian, but all are independent, freedom-oriented, hard-working and self-sufficient (to a point).

This place was largely selected because it has an ample underground water supply and is a prolific agricultural region so that we can assure our own food supply. This is also a prolific wine growing region, and we have hundreds of acres of some of the top wine grapes in Argentina in production. We also have the best golf course in South America, one of the nicest polo fields, and are building what will easily be the best health club in South America, with tennis courts, pools, lakes and gyms.

Some are loosely referring to this place as a bit of a "Galt's Gulch", modeled on Ayn Rand's Atlas Shrugged utopia for the productive class escaping the destructive political class and the decaying society they wrought.

cafayate1.jpgWhat convinced me this was the safest place to raise my children over the next decade was the people. Not exactly the ex-pat pensioners you find in a lot of places, but young people with families, young couples just starting out, people that want to build this community into something great. There's a vibrancy here you don't get anywhere else in Latin America. Our neighbors are from California, Vancouver, Seattle, North Carolina, Calgary, Colorado, Germany, etc.


At about 6000 feet up in the Andes mountains, the air here is clean and fresh unlike anything I have experienced since I was a kid going to Lake Tahoe. There's 330 days of sunshine each year, and the local town of Cafayate has everything you need on a daily basis from groceries, to restaurants and hardware stores. When you are here you realize again what fresh food really is, and all the toxins we are subject to in the food, air and water in North America. After her first bite of locally made ice cream here, my daughter exclaimed, "Wow, we don't have ice cream like this in the US".

"La Estancia", as we call the place, is not heaven, but for us, at this time, it's the closest place we can imagine. But more importantly, we are building something that we want for ourselves, and we are doing it as a community.

Already the frustrations I had with the economic situation in the US, the growing threats of war in Iran, and the troubling news about Fukushima radiation are quickly becoming a thing of the past.

Argentina has its challenges for sure, and this particular community may not be for everybody, but I haven't felt as optimistic about my family's future for a long time.

Comments for "US Family Finds a Future in Argentina"

Jo said (November 22, 2011):

" Please think about Tasmania, we speak English here and over 80% is of European stock, and misdeeds (crime) is very low. It is bigger than Ireland with less than 500,000
dwellers, and 1/3 is cool climate rain woods.

But, if you do come here then PLEASE build your homes in Classic North American Colonial styles, Gramble roofs, 45 degree pitch, no tin, please held better our culture which suffer
awfull box and awful depressing mainland Aussie post war knock off architecture.

Come here and help better the place! [email protected]"

G said (November 20, 2011):

My wife and I, along with our three children, have been considering different countries to expatriate to and Argentina was one of them. We were hoping they might be able to enlighten us a bit further to help our decision. We have already sold all of our possessions, invested in long term food, precious metals, and other means of future sustainability. We now live on our 40 foot sailboat ready to depart at a moment's notice. We will likely sail to our final destination once we decide, or are forced to leave. I believe we would make an excellent addition to a community like the one your friend spoke about.

Kerry said (November 20, 2011):

I'm originally from Edmonton, AB and have been living in Kentucky since 94. I'm fed up with the antics of the US, both the evil manipulators and even worse, the dumb munchkins that argue with me that there's even a conspiracy.

Thus I'd like to live somewhere with people who have a chance at finishing out their life with some joy, instead of the impending gloom in the US (feel pretty much the same about Canada, too)--that and the US-Canada has just flat out become unafordable to live. I've been working with the computer IT field since 84 and can't get a job out here that's decent due to the antics of these business and organizations whereby their moto is "you do more work for less money and we reap all the rewards".

Funny thing about these organzations is that if you were to analyze them via human psychology, you'd label them narcistic-psychotic as they live their life with no regard for anyone else. I think the movie "the corporation" brought that up. **But what does that say about the psyche and development (lack of) of people who defend the behaviors of these organizations? would they defend the behavior of a psychotic-narcisitic human who discarded other people's needs like they were trash? I'd have to say such people have an infantile (1-5 year old) development of their psyche and this explains much of society in the world, at least in "the west". Erich Fromm has written about this. Michael Tsarion also.

Mohammet said (November 19, 2011):

Marcos from Brazil has hit the nail on the head-in my opinion.
Whites also seem oblivious to the struggles & problems faced by millions of people worldwide -on a daily basis.
no sooner do they get a small taste of these problems, they moan & complain & you'd think this is the first time anyone ever in the history of mankind has ever faced these problems.

when it happens to others, it does not register on their radar.
but when they feel the pinch, even very slightly, they want the world to know & sympathise with them.

Worldwide, people are dying from starvation, others from bombs & bullets but it seems thats not so serious as white peoples "quality of life" decreasing or their retirement savings/pension being lower that what they expected.

to most of us in the real world, these "problems" faced by whites are a joke if we were in their position, we'd be thanking God daily for his many favours upon us, instead of being ungrateful & bitching about it.

J said (November 18, 2011):

I live in Michigan and I do not have to describe to you the economic disaster currently unfolding here.

The automobile industry and sub groups of part manufacturing in Wayne county where Detroit is located is a dead stinking fish. All jobs have been sent overseas, it is over.

Real unemployment in Wayne county is 30%+ ......of course this number does not include the people currently ON unemployment; they are not counted as unemployed until their benefits run out. I know University of Michigan grads who have been on unemployment for over 3yrs.

There are some richer suburbs hanging on but the blue collar neighborhoods are looking like a war zone. One house the lawn is cut the next its 3 ft high and windows kicked out. No one wants to live here. Boarded up and closed strip malls tell the will NEVER come back

I own a lawn fertilizing company and had a steady customer base of about 1300 homes per month and I am down now to about 900 and losing steady.....where will I be in 3-5 yrs?

Not good.

I am shitting myself.

Is it possible for you to place me in touch with Gary Kinghorn the individual who wrote a recent article on his move to S America?


Thanks for this information J

I will forward your email to Gary.


Marcos (from Brazil) said (November 18, 2011):

I have met lots of expats (without a hyphen, please) during my life, and I can say with conviction that there are two main reasons expats like to live abroad. First, they usually are seen as someone special in the host country. It may be because they have more money than the people, because they are fair skinned, because they are seen as exotic and people like to talk to them. These people would just be average in their home countries, something some people can't deal with well.

Second, when people live abroad, they just don't care about the political situation of the host country. Even unconsciously, they regard their struggles as something foreign. Sometimes, they don't even understand what is happening, and ignorance is bliss. It is very possible that they are simply happy because for the first time in their lives they are living a life focused on themselves and their families and not worrying about politics.

The case of the author of the post is typical. Argentina has a Marxist government with a demagogue president and serious economic and social tensions. South America as a whole is not under the American military-complex rule (this is ridiculous) but under strong Marxist rule by the Forum de São Paulo Communist group, led by Castro, Chavez, Lula and Morales. I would not be surprised if the author's land is soon seized by some Marxist campesinos.

Americans should throw their hands to heaven and thank God for the country they have, instead of crying like ungrateful babies. I have a Brazilian passport here, if any American wants, we can swap documents anytime.

Roger said (November 18, 2011):

You and I have communicated, years ago, when you were just getting started writing. I told you then and will repeat how much I admire what you have done and are doing. I ALWAYS read you articles and not one, even after all these years, has disappointed me. I send many of them out to my recipient list.

The reason I write you today is two fold. First, I moved to Argentina a little almost 3.5 years ago now. I live down the road, about an 18 hour bus ride, from Casey's place South of Salta. I have not been up to that part of the country yet but plan on going, both to see Salta (called Salta la Linda here or, Salta the Beautiful) and to visit Casey's development and meet some of the people. As it is the hotter part of the country it probably will not be till the weather cools back down next April or May. We will see. I settled in a relatively small town in the middle and Western part of Argentina also, a town named San Rafael in Mendoza Province. We are almost directly due West of Buenos Aires on the map and close to the Andes. It is a spectacular place to live. Being raised in the Air Force I know a little bit about traveling and different places to live. This one is EXCEPTIONAL! Here's a site maintained by an American here who has built quite a little business selling property. It has some great pics and info on the area BUT, disregard the land prices as they're about to fall drastically I think.

M said (November 18, 2011):

My friend and I are looking for places to escape this sinking ship we call America. We have discussed Central America, but after reading what Gary wrote, I am calling my friend this eve

He works in Alaska, I am currently in Florida}, after doing a bit of research today. Most of the people who read your post are aware of what's taking place in what was once a GREAT NATION BUT IS NO MORE. So, I urge those of you who care enough about you and your's futures to seriously consider GETTIN' OUT WHILE THE GETTINS' GOOD. Good luck and may God bless you!!

Daniel said (November 18, 2011):

Bravo to ex-pats in Argentina! I moved out of
the-country-formerly-know-as-the-US about six years ago. About eight years ago I was running around the
streets of New Jersey trying to get anyone that would listen to watch "Loose Change", and making a total ass out of myself. I finally threw up my hands when my best friend said to me "If you don't like it here why don't you just leave." On the way to JFK airport my friend started babbling something to me about needing more police, not less.

I'm in total agreement with the author, these people deserve their fate, they beg for it. My only conclusion is that this is how historically-correct Germans must've felt when they saw the hordes of their German brethren embracing Hitler. All I can do is watch, shake my head and stick my fingers in my ears waiting for the boom.

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